Impressive and unsurprising. As soon as you start getting complex libraries with multiple dependencies it becomes nearly impossible to review everything. At one time I had an interest in contributing to some AI libraries, but they’re a mess as soon as you go looking for points of improvement.
Love the part where he claims that if your users are authenticated, it’s not untrusted input. I mean, surely you trust all of your users to run any code on your server, right?
Which is funny because when I first started my CS degree in the late 80s (get off my lawn) we used to make fun of the beginning Java classes because it seems 90% of coding was to import the right library.
I thought it was poking fun at the tutorial saying instead of learning to code, import a library from someone who knows how to code.
Works as well.
That’s what libraries are for. I’m no security expert and the sensible thing to do is using a library instead of taking a class.
Counterpoint: “not knowing your libraries” + “blind trust in the maintainer” will give you stuff like this: https://bitbucket.org/snakeyaml/snakeyaml/issues/561/cve-2022-1471-vulnerability-in
(the thread itself is worth a read. But also very impressive is the list of big players who fell for exactly this mentality)
Jesus that was one hell of a thread
I dont want to see the words “low quality tooling” ever again.
Impressive and unsurprising. As soon as you start getting complex libraries with multiple dependencies it becomes nearly impossible to review everything. At one time I had an interest in contributing to some AI libraries, but they’re a mess as soon as you go looking for points of improvement.
Love the part where he claims that if your users are authenticated, it’s not untrusted input. I mean, surely you trust all of your users to run any code on your server, right?
That is a large part of coding
Which is funny because when I first started my CS degree in the late 80s (get off my lawn) we used to make fun of the beginning Java classes because it seems 90% of coding was to import the right library.