I can understand the desire to get as many downvotes as possible on reddit. I don’t sympathize, but I can at least see where people are coming from. Because Reddit gives you that total and shows it to you.
And I’m sure it’s possible to use an API to really that number up on Lemmy, but “total karma” doesn’t seem to be something Lemmy cares about by default, so where is the motivation coming from?
Is it just the same reason people have always been trolls? Because I’ve never quite understood that, either
Trolls have existed as long as social spaces have. No one really knows why trollers troll; it is one of the great mysteries
In addition to what others have said:
Since Qanon and covid conspiracies, it became clearer that trolling is not just a past-time to engage recreationally in. It is something that can actually have policy effects in democratic societies.
As a result, it begins to make sense for an international rival to exert itself to inexpensively cause disruption in unfriendly powers.
This sort of troll cannot be simply ignored, unfortunately.
yes. its human nature to push boundaries. mostly the more immature humans, but definitely a human issue not even really tied to forums.
Poopy fart.
10/10, no notes
Trolls are trolls. The number is an excuse on Reddit, but it’s not the reason they really do it. If it were, why are there trolls on Twitter, Facebook, and in the YouTube comment section?
The lulz.
That is all.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
yea, we do.
I don’t think it was ever honestly about the points, even on reddit.
There was a couple novelty accounts that stated their purpose was to get as many down votes as possible; but they also gave up pretty quickly (or got banned).
The vast majority of trolls just want to piss people off and/or think they are funny.
I like to think my trolling is more fun and whimsical, but I guess I mostly just troll bigots and whatnot.
Well I’ve been behaving on lemmy for the sake of our instances users. So yea there’s that.
I mostly troll on plemora and the reason I even started doing that is because…
I HATE how all the posts are out of context. It’s like a bunch of conversations that don’t make any sense. And that you’re not included in.
At first no one talked to me at all. So I got mad and started spit firing insults. Then all of a sudden lol.
I don’t do it much. Usually just when I’m bored and most of the time I insult and move on. I don’t really engage in replies just bc why?
I’m of the opinion that I’m an internet person who shouldn’t matter to you. Just ignore me. Don’t engage you’re wasting your time
As long as I get some amount of engagement, the points really don’t matter to me. I once posted something in an attempt to call attention to misogyny. The post broke no rules, but given my intent, I suppose it could be considered trolling. Most people (and probably some of their sock puppets) didn’t agree with me and I got quite a few downvotes on the post itself and in the comments, but if it made one person reconsider their position, it was worth it to me.
I think in my mind trolling has to be perpetrated in bad faith, i.e. your stated intentions and actual intentions are at least different and quite possibly contrary. Doesn’t sound like you were trolling.
Darn. I really need to buckle down and climb back under that bridge. 😆
I’m not a troll on Lemmy, but there’s another internet forum where I let it out a little. That one’s a hobby forum, and it happens to be a hobby that a lot of people are trying to monetise. The forum rules are clear that you’re not welcome to advertise your product unless you participate in discussion as well. Of course, a lot of advertisers post without bothering to read the rules first. They’re engaging with us in bad faith, so I feel justified in doing the same to them. I like to ask disingenuous questions and pretend to be stupid while stringing them along with the possibility of a sale. So:
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It’s fun to mildly bully people who’ve done something to deserve it.
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You could have bought a banner advert, Scrooge.
Would you mind dming me that forum sounds fun? Oh on our Instance we have internet trolls anonymous community you can posts your trolling screen shots to
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Sociopaths like to antagonize and cause distress as a means of exerting control over others. In the case of online trolls they aren’t just sociopaths but also pathetic losers who can’t antagonize others in person without getting their heads handed to them.
How does one define a troll here?
Usually by their usernames, their name is whining about mods or leftism or some pathetic tate-ism.
Genetically Modified Skeptic has entered the chat.
Oh, or “just asking questions” and sealioning. I’d pretty much universally consider those to be trolling.
Not sure how dumb a question this is, but could someone give me a ELI5 on this “sealioning”? I am no stranger to being accused of it (perhaps almost 95% of the time by people that are banned by the end of the week), yet I look up the term constantly and the definition always seems like a good thing. It’s almost as if it’s the next big buzzword. Where is the line drawn?
It’s bad because of the, like, stalking/prodding people until they engage part of it. Just like JAQing, it starts with a pretense of doing no wrong. This means sometimes it’s possible to accuse someone of it when they’re acting in good faith because what they said closely resembles others who have acted in bad faith.
As someone who believes in the concept of benefit of the doubt, this seems against anything I would call someone out for then.
I don’t know. I was thinking about, like, bad takes argued for in bad faith, or at least bad form. Constant straw-manning and ad hominems to support an argument like “women are inferior to men” or some other bs
Oh, you’re talking about the dark and tragic trolling. That is because they are very sad people.
Yeah, I guess. I can take a joke pretty well, even when I don’t think it’s funny, so other kinds of trolling are just pretty whatever to me.
Comedy is hard.
Oh, those. I always just shrug at the idea people might disagree with something, it’s not the same as malice.
Disagreeing is fine, but fallacious arguments aren’t. I feel it’s important to be able to understand why you believe what you do, or at least not to expect others to agree with you if you can’t. Fallacious arguments are not good reasons to believe something, and outright false ones are even worse.
Holding an opinion I disagree with is fine, it’s when you tell me my opinion is wrong and offer only bad reasoning to convince me that it’s a problem.
Commenting with the goal of being disruptive rather than constructive (or at least funny).
Same thing I’ve been wondering about the spammers. Like, ok, you thought you left a mark? But few people will remember your username and the mods will just bulk-delete your shit. I don’t get it. Too much effort, time and probably some money for literally nothing.
Someone recently spammed a popular community with about a hundred copies of a hate message + an unmarked nsfw image. I reported it as I’m sure everyone else who saw them did, taken down very swiftly, thanks mods.
But in that case as with many others I think the goal literally is just to put hate and the threat of violence before people’s eyes. Even if only for a few minutes, maybe a vulnerable person sees it and it ruins their day. Real scum of the earth mentality
Who spams obvious malware/scam links here? Facebook, I get it and expect it to work there. If you found your way here, you at leas have some understanding of what spam is and how to avoid clicking the melt my PC button.
Who clicks on those? Who pays for those? How is it actually profitable? Who the hell is moving that many boner pills?
The one I’m thinking of was recent but wasn’t related to a scam afaik. It seemed like they just wanted to annoy the admins, but their act got cleaned up rather quickly after going scorched Earth by spamming nonsense because their original account got banned or whatever. It was petty af.
The salt from tears is tasty
sounds very familiar
