https://lemmy.ml/post/13864821
I’d understand if they were a random user, but a mod should already have at least some understanding about a community’s topic.
But worse to me are their comments in that post calling the people responding “childish trolls in this community”. I do not think that this is appropriate for a moderator.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
Am I missing something, gnu is a licence, Foss a philosophy, is gnu licence Foss? And if so why are some many people saying charging for software isn’t Foss when Richard stalman himself makes the point “This is a matter of freedom, not price, so think of “free speech,” not “free beer.””
Sorry if I got this wrong I am generally confused by this hole thing.
GNU is not a license, it’s a project, one that practically spearheaded the whole FOSS movement back in the 80s. The programs that were part of the GNU project were licenced under the GNU General Public License (GPL), which was originally written by Richard Stallman, and evolved over time to its current version, GPLv3 (now backed by the Free Software Foundation). So the “GPL” is the actual license that can be applied to any program, should the developer choose to do so (so it’s not limited just to the GNU project).
All GPL licenced programs are considered to be FOSS, however, FOSS can also imply other licenses such as MIT, LGPL, Apache etc.
As you said, it’s not about the price at all, the “free” means freedom. Specifically, the GPL explicitly states that you may charge money for the software. Other free software licences also generally state something similar.
The confusion regarding selling is best explained by the FSF:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
Also, just to be clear, opensource =/= FOSS. Opensource just means that the source code is available, FOSS however implies that you’re free to modify and redistribute the program (+ some other freedoms as outlined in the specific license used).
Thank you for clearing this up, the comments in the linked post where having me question myself
Incorrect. “Open Source” also means that you are free to modify and redistribute the software.
If the source code is merely available but not free to modify and/or redistribute, then it is called source-available software.
Not necessarily true - that right to modify/redistribute depends on the exact license being applied. For example, the Open Watcom Public License claims to be an “open source” license, but it actually doesn’t allow making modifications. This is also why we specifically have the terms “free software” or “FOSS” which imply they you are indeed allowed to modify and redistribute.
I would recommend reading this: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
There’s nothing wrong with charging for your FOSS. You can’t, however, force anybody who gets it from you to also charge the people they end up distributing it to like some sort of Ponzi scheme. The transactional relationship between you, your software, and another party ends at the first level.
This is what I had thought, where I was confused was the vast amount of comments in the linked post stating flatly that charging for software went against foss