The “Israel has a right to defend itself” line is pure misinformation. Here’s his actual quote, in full:
“Israel, of course, had the right to defend itself against the horrific Hamas terrorist attack of October 7th, but it did not, and does not, have the right to go to war against the entire Palestinian people.”
You’re free to use your block button however you choose. To me this looks like a troll intentionally spreading misinformation. I have little benefit of the doubt left to give out to people posting on the internet
That doesn’t make them not a troll spreading misinformation. My requirements for blocking are not “literal bot account”. Again, you are free to make your own choices about how to interact with the internet
against the horrific Hamas terrorist attack of October 7th, but it did not, and does not, have the right to go to war against the entire Palestinian people."
Keep reading, if you look closely, you’ll actually find there are more words that follow. He also did not say they “have” a right to defend themself, but “had” a right to defend themself against a specific event that occurred. He also makes clear that it is not a valid justification to go to war against all of Palestine.
What issue do you have with his statement, exactly?
Who are Hamas, how did they come to be and what are they doing? What did they do on the 7th of October, 2023? Why does a settler-colonialist entity have the right to defend itself in this given context? Does it have the right on other contexts? Does it not, and if not, what does that change? Do you recognize what you are defending by virtue of your hyper-examining of a statement that doesn’t change its meaning even after the hyper-examination?
Israel has a right to defend itself, but what Israel does not have a right to do, in my view, is to kill 12,000 people in six, seven weeks, two-thirds of whom are women and children.
“Israel has the right to defend itself and go to war with Hamas, who started this whole situation,” Sanders said on the Senate floor. “Israel does not have the right to go to war with the entire Palestinian people … And sadly that is what is happening right now.”
From the same source:
“The resolution brought forward by Sen. Sanders is little more than performative left-wing politics,” the Kentucky Republican said. “It is not, as our colleague would suggest, about authorizing a report on aid to Israel. It’s not even about human rights. It’s about tying the hands of a close ally locked in a necessary battle against savage terrorists.”
Team Red, the brother to Team Blue in its shared interest in imperialism, can smell his bullshit from a mile away and have no problem pointing out using non-euphemistic terms that are a reflection of how they really think about Palestine and Palestinians, the last question is, why are you struggling with this?
For as long as these questions remain unanswered truthfully, reality will be very hard to grasp for you.
Reading a full sentence is “hyper-examination” lmaoooooo okie dokie
But questioning the definiton of every word of it when it is plainly obvious isn’t hyper-examination 😂😂
Thanks for providing more examples of his consistent stance on this for me?? Literally supports my point. So again, what about it, exactly, do you disagree with?
Your “erm, akshually”-esque point makes complete sense when you don’t consider Palestinians as humans and have no right to resistance. It’s not an opinion, there’s nothing to “agree” or “disagree” with.
Now quit squirming and answer each and every single question posed. Or what, you wanna pass on the opportunity to show the 10 other people reading this thread how much you understand the subject, since you libs love to tout “nuance” so much when all you do is play semantics?
Quick question, were the Israeli civilians who were killed in a mass killing spree on October 7th human, too?
I realise my other repeated question so far has been pretty tough and you’ve had to try to continuously dodge and deflect from it instead of just simply say the thing you actually think, but this one should be pretty simple and straightforward to just answer with a yes or no, right?? You kinda walked right into it, too, so.
No. “Israeli civilians” is an oxymoron: as Israelis are reservists at best and full-time genociders at least. They’re Europeans/Americans, and they all had a choice in the matter when settling in land that don’t belong to them. History did not begin on the 7th of October, 2023. Refer back to this lovely reply by @m532@lemmygrad.ml who manages to succinctly clear your doubts: https://lemmy.ml/post/29464508/18363453
I realise my other repeated question so far has been pretty tough and you’ve had to try to continuously dodge and deflect from it instead of just simply say the thing you actually think
Question:
Literally supports my point. So again, what about it, exactly, do you disagree with?
Answer:
Your “erm, akshually”-esque point makes complete sense when you don’t consider Palestinians as humans and have no right to resistance. there’s nothing to “agree” or “disagree” with.
The zionazis do NOT have a right to genocide the people. Neither do they have a right to kill those who fight back against the genocide. All zionazis must get nurembergd.
Block button exists for a reason. I’m using mine.
The “Israel has a right to defend itself” line is pure misinformation. Here’s his actual quote, in full:
“Israel, of course, had the right to defend itself against the horrific Hamas terrorist attack of October 7th, but it did not, and does not, have the right to go to war against the entire Palestinian people.”
Eh seems like this is just a lazy repost not something intentional or spammy. Your full quote probably straitened OP out.
You’re free to use your block button however you choose. To me this looks like a troll intentionally spreading misinformation. I have little benefit of the doubt left to give out to people posting on the internet
Yeah this guy posts his lunch. He’s just a tankie that fell for a pretty meme
That doesn’t make them not a troll spreading misinformation. My requirements for blocking are not “literal bot account”. Again, you are free to make your own choices about how to interact with the internet
"the ‘israel has a right to defend itself’ line is pure misinformation, he actually said ‘israel has a right to defend itself’ "
incredible stuff from the brightest minds here on Lemmy
Keep reading, if you look closely, you’ll actually find there are more words that follow. He also did not say they “have” a right to defend themself, but “had” a right to defend themself against a specific event that occurred. He also makes clear that it is not a valid justification to go to war against all of Palestine.
What issue do you have with his statement, exactly?
Who are Hamas, how did they come to be and what are they doing? What did they do on the 7th of October, 2023? Why does a settler-colonialist entity have the right to defend itself in this given context? Does it have the right on other contexts? Does it not, and if not, what does that change? Do you recognize what you are defending by virtue of your hyper-examining of a statement that doesn’t change its meaning even after the hyper-examination?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/11/28/bernie_sanders_israel_has_a_right_to_defend_itself_but_not_to_kill_12000_innocent_people_in_response.html
https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2024/01/16/u-s-senate-turns-aside-bernie-sanders-measure-to-order-human-rights-inquiry-of-israel/
From the same source:
Team Red, the brother to Team Blue in its shared interest in imperialism, can smell his bullshit from a mile away and have no problem pointing out using non-euphemistic terms that are a reflection of how they really think about Palestine and Palestinians, the last question is, why are you struggling with this?
For as long as these questions remain unanswered truthfully, reality will be very hard to grasp for you.
Reading a full sentence is “hyper-examination” lmaoooooo okie dokie
But questioning the definiton of every word of it when it is plainly obvious isn’t hyper-examination 😂😂
Thanks for providing more examples of his consistent stance on this for me?? Literally supports my point. So again, what about it, exactly, do you disagree with?
Your “erm, akshually”-esque point makes complete sense when you don’t consider Palestinians as humans and have no right to resistance. It’s not an opinion, there’s nothing to “agree” or “disagree” with.
Now quit squirming and answer each and every single question posed. Or what, you wanna pass on the opportunity to show the 10 other people reading this thread how much you understand the subject, since you libs love to tout “nuance” so much when all you do is play semantics?
Quick question, were the Israeli civilians who were killed in a mass killing spree on October 7th human, too?
I realise my other repeated question so far has been pretty tough and you’ve had to try to continuously dodge and deflect from it instead of just simply say the thing you actually think, but this one should be pretty simple and straightforward to just answer with a yes or no, right?? You kinda walked right into it, too, so.
No. “Israeli civilians” is an oxymoron: as Israelis are reservists at best and full-time genociders at least. They’re Europeans/Americans, and they all had a choice in the matter when settling in land that don’t belong to them. History did not begin on the 7th of October, 2023. Refer back to this lovely reply by @m532@lemmygrad.ml who manages to succinctly clear your doubts: https://lemmy.ml/post/29464508/18363453
Question:
Answer:
Britain (the Empire that helped give birth to the settler-colonial entity) Considered Israel Bigger Threat Than USSR in 1945
Please Watch This Before Saying Anything About Israel/Palestine
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and the Creation of Israel (How We Got Here)
Whether my questions are answered or not, reality won’t be forgiving, unfortunately for you soon enough you’ll have to come to terms with it, lib.
No wonder you require such projection and mental gymnastics.
The zionazis do NOT have a right to genocide the people. Neither do they have a right to kill those who fight back against the genocide. All zionazis must get nurembergd.