As the total solar eclipse, occurring across Mexico, the United States and Canada on April 8, draws near, experts are reminding spectators to grab a pair of eclipse glasses to view the celestial event safely — and to make sure they aren’t fake.
Counterfeit eclipse glasses are “polluting the marketplace,” according to a release shared by the American Astronomical Society, or AAS.
A total solar eclipse occurs when the moon passes between Earth and the sun, completely blocking the sun’s face from view for a few moments. About 32 million people in the US live within the 115-mile-wide (185-kilometer-wide) path of totality, or locations where the moon will appear to completely cover the sun and the lunar shadow falls on the Earth’s surface. People outside the path of totality will still be able to see a partial solar eclipse in which the moon only blocks part of the sun’s face.
II bought mine from a welding supply store. SO i know they are good and they will last longer.
They have to ALSO block UV light. Solar glasses are specifically designed to block all dangerous wavelengths not just visible light. Just make sure it blocks all needed wavelengths.
I believe welding arcs are pretty much the same thing as the sun. It definitely puts off UV light and the welding glass will block it. Welding glass is perfectly safe.
Heres how you can tell
Amazon is not worth the risk. But from a reputable source, you are worth it.
What an awful thing to do to people.
Hold on just a minute now… What if there was an ad campaign for these that targeted only the gullible Christians, old people, conservatives?
Blind faith n all that 🤩🙏
Never let an opportunity pass that could teach valuable lessons
Dont even joke about that. I dont want them harmed. I want them to stop harming others.
Let’s not prey on ignorance. There’s enough of that going around.
It’s the perfect crime. The victims will never be able to identify you!
The next total solar eclipse that is visible from the US is in 20 years.
There’s one coming up on April 08, 2024
https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/future-eclipses/eclipse-2024/where-when/
I’m aware, and most, if they haven’t prepared, will have to wait.
A ton of people live in the path of totality. Like double the 2017 eclipse. 30 million or something? Plus it’s within a few hours of massive population centers. So there’s plenty of people who should be aware of this issue.
And those who are only just now learning and trying to get glasses are probably going to find a shortage.
I bought my glasses 11 months ago when I made my plane and hotel reservations. Last minute people are gonna get fucked by these asshole scam artists.
But the main point of my original post is that if you miss this one, we have 2 whole ass decades before the next, so be aware.
Not afaict… I imagine the profit margins on these things are enormous and they are super easy to manufacture. If anything I think there’s going to be a huge surplus of them.
It’s ~2 weeks away. That’s plenty of time for plenty of people.
Not if they can’t find the glasses. Reputable sellers are getting backordered, leaving fake glasses to fill the void.
9 days
Ok, still.
You can tell next day when you’re blind
Pro tip: Use a polarized glass from a soldering mask. not expensive and more durable.
Make sure it’s above shade 10 or you may still be doing damage.
In 2017 I used a 12/13
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Welding mask, soldering doesn’t usually require any special eye protection
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As others have said, only the darkest shades of welding glass provide adequate protection, and the ones that do are fairly uncommon, most hardware stores and even many welding supply places won’t won’t have dark enough masks or glasses on-hand normally. They may be able to order them, but don’t expect to pick them up off the shelf at your local store.
- Welding and soldering are the same word in my language (soldar) my bad.
- Honestly I wasnt aware there are shades of welding mask glass, here I just ask for a replacement mask glass at the hardware store and give me the right one (based on the fact that Im not blind) still, my bad.
Guess thats why you shouldnt listen to internet randos :v
Yeah, in English soldering and welding are different processes, there’s also brazing, which really kind of mucks the terminology up.
I’m sure you’re probably pretty familiar with the actual processes (probably moreso than me, most of my knowledge is second-hand from growing up with my pipefitter dad and hanging out with a few welders,) but just so you know how we use the terms in English (and for anyone else who’s reading this who might be curious)
What we call soldering is a relatively low temperature process, the filler metal gets melted but not the base metal, it’s often done with a soldering iron, or regular butane, propane, or mapp gas torches, usually with no need for an oxygen torch.
Brazing is basically just hotter soldering, the base metals still aren’t getting melted, it may involve an oxygen torch, there’s also some brazing processes that use arc welders, like TIG brazing with silicon bronze filler.
For the non-welder types, you can kind of think of soldering and brazing as metal hot glue. There’s a bit more to it than that, but that’s kind of the general idea.
And welding is when the base metals are getting melted together, and it’s pretty much always going to involve either an arc-welder or oxy-acetylene torch.
Most hardware stores probably stock about a shade 10 lens, which is adequate for most common welding processes. You really only need to go higher for a handful of processes, like carbon arc welding (darker lenses may be recommended in a lot of other cases, but 10 will meet or exceed the minimum requirement in most cases)
I’ve seen some mixed information about exactly what shade is safe for viewing the sun, but they all agree that 10 isn’t adequate, I’ve seen some sources that say anything darker than 10 is ok, others say darker than 12, and still others insist on 14. It’s probably one of those things that depends a lot of factors, how long you look, how sensitive your eyes are, the weather, viewing angle, etc. I’m no expert and certainly don’t take this as legit safety advice, but I’d imagine you could probably steal some quick looks at the sun with shade 10 or so lenses without causing significant damage, but you probably don’t want to stare at the sun for a few hours for the whole duration of the eclipse.
I have seen a lot of auto darkening helmets that go up to a shade 13. So if you have one, think that’s an acceptable level of risk, and can either set it to 13 or trust it to do it automatically (I kind of suspect, though I don’t know for certain, that looking at the sun may not trigger it as reliably as looking at a weld that’s right in front of you) you can certainly try that.
I suppose there’s also the possibility that the equivalents of ANSI or OSHA or whoever sets the standards for welding lenses in your country, may use a different system or terminology than we do here in the states, which could make most of what I’m saying here largely irrelevant.
Personally I have a pair of glasses made by Phillips safety with shade 14 glass that I used for the last eclipse and will use again for this one. I certainly felt well-protected, the sun was just a dim circle in the sky. Of course the apparent brightness is only part of the issue since UV light is invisible and that’s where a lot of the real danger comes from, but a shade or two lower probably would have still made the sun comfortable to look at, though I can’t comment on the actual safety.
So the conclusion is: Test your eye protection, whatever it is, like the article says.
I have heard those words before but forgot about them and often get confused with the meanings. Thanks for the explanations, good read.
I have seen a lot of auto darkening helmets
Those look awesome but they are too expensive here and I always worry they will take too long to darken
I suppose there’s also the possibility that the equivalents of ANSI or OSHA or whoever sets the standards for welding lenses in your country, may use a different system or terminology than we do here in the states, which could make most of what I’m saying here largely irrelevant.
Probably. I think we are also a bit careless when it comes to safety measures. Like Ive seen DIY videos on YT that makes me think the maker is being a bit paranoid about safety only to then read the comments telling them all the other safety measures they skipped and all I can think of is “I would have done it worse” lol.
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Only if the shade is high enough on the glasses. I think the recommendation for eclipses is to go shade 12 or higher, usually only used for things like carbon arc welding. Lower shades of glasses will not prevent all eye damage.
yes lower shade rating will not work. 13, 14 will work
“There’s no way to tell just by looking at them whether eclipse glasses are genuinely safe,” Fienberg said, “but it’s easy to tell if they are not safe.”
Try on the glasses indoors first. Nothing should be visible through the lenses, and even the brightest lights should only appear very faintly. If furnishings or wall decor are visible through the lenses, these glasses aren’t safe to view the sun.
But if the glasses pass the indoor test, the AAS recommends putting them on outside during a sunny day and looking around. Again, nothing should be visible through the lenses, unless the sun is reflecting off an exceptionally shiny surface, and even then the light will appear faint if the glasses are safe.
If the glasses pass that second test, try looking at the sun through them for less than a second. If the glasses are safe, the sun will appear comfortably bright and likely white, yellow, orange or bluish white.
I would still be worried that if you don’t but from a reputable source, the glasses may only block visible light and seem fine when they may not be blocking dangerous UV light.
thank you
I had working glasses that made the sun look neon green too.
