This does misunderstand what actually costs the energy – it’s training the models that’s costly, not using the already trained ones. Although to be fair using them increases incentive for new ones to be trained… But yeah asking ChatGPT for a recipe idea isn’t burning an ounce of gasoline.
Yes, and now not just cringe gamers are using that electricity. At least that was an experience wholely unique, this is people delegating thought, artistry, and processing. Meaning now it can be use for passive things in day to day life.
The increase then can be measured by any time that wasnt spent on gaming, now needing a large enough mole hill to want and circumvent. Gaming already was escapism of social cognizant responsibilities, I say this as a dude who spent every 80 hours a week on gaming, and have 11k hours in league.
Circumventing these things outside of gaming will essentially lead to a dependency. I hardly trust adults to self govern, but kids I can see being swindled by the ‘ability’ granted. Rather than the dependency and lack of one’s innate thought and memory.
It just makes me scared, no I dont think it will ever fully replace a person’s mind, but it will grasp it. It can make a person doubtful of themselves and in doubt we are most persuadable. With recent politics nationwide trying to turn into fascist states fundamentally built on hate, I do not want kids to be raised persuaded without their will. While also removing part of their learning capabilities and reducing their capacity.
Cities will seem like labor mills to house the slaves, while being more aware of freedom than those truly free.
C’mon man Matrix was on this shit, if that’s too boring try adventure time.
I think that to a degree we’re buying into the showmanship and claims of AI companies concerning the future, when the reality is that there are hard limits to the functionality of generative AI and LLMs. They want us to think that they’re building Rocco’s Basilisk because that’s some good terrifying viral marketing. But it isn’t true.
I’ve personally tried these tools at home. I’ve got LM Studio and ComfyUI on my PC. They’re novel and all, but they do have a hard limit to usefulness. You cannot rely on an information tool that returns the wrong information half the time. Not because it’s annoying but because people want and need to get stuff done, and ultimately AI will get in the way of getting stuff done.
It does not matter about the limit, if they can convince people to sell out. The kids are still fucked and delayed. Your dismissiveness devalues the harm a tool like this can do. Just how the internet spread rapidly facilatating crime and is only recently being wrangled. Social existence is centralized, intelligence can be too - then it can be sold at a subscription. With you the creator losing all ownership.
It’s just the head of the iceberg. Soon the rest will melt too.
I think the future will be somewhere between what we consider normal now and the austere dystopia you envision. This AI shit certainly isn’t making the world any better, that’s for sure.
Yeah I did forget to consider that a lot of the web hosted models have a whole array of “experts” - Sub-LLMs that help fill in specialized information that a more generalized LLM wouldn’t have. Not a problem for someone running an AI model on their home computer but something that likely happens most times that you’re querying an AI online.
That’s also true, though it’s important to remember that the “experts” aren’t experts in the classical sense. Say you have a word made up of 3 tokens, it’s possible that each token is routed to a different expert. It’s just a model architecture.
people who complain about mountains of disposable diapers at landfills misunderstand the problem. it’s the poop of newborn babies that’s the problem, not the ones who have gone on to become adults. although to be fair their growing up increases the chance of more poop-producing babies.
but yeah sleeping around without birth control isn’t contributing to even one extra poop-filled diaper.
This does misunderstand what actually costs the energy – it’s training the models that’s costly, not using the already trained ones. Although to be fair using them increases incentive for new ones to be trained… But yeah asking ChatGPT for a recipe idea isn’t burning an ounce of gasoline.
But they are always training new models
Using them is also very energy intensive (though much less so than training).
Playing a AAA game amount of energy vs running an entire data center on full blast amount of energy, is the comparison I like to make.
Yes, and now not just cringe gamers are using that electricity. At least that was an experience wholely unique, this is people delegating thought, artistry, and processing. Meaning now it can be use for passive things in day to day life.
The increase then can be measured by any time that wasnt spent on gaming, now needing a large enough mole hill to want and circumvent. Gaming already was escapism of social cognizant responsibilities, I say this as a dude who spent every 80 hours a week on gaming, and have 11k hours in league.
Circumventing these things outside of gaming will essentially lead to a dependency. I hardly trust adults to self govern, but kids I can see being swindled by the ‘ability’ granted. Rather than the dependency and lack of one’s innate thought and memory.
It just makes me scared, no I dont think it will ever fully replace a person’s mind, but it will grasp it. It can make a person doubtful of themselves and in doubt we are most persuadable. With recent politics nationwide trying to turn into fascist states fundamentally built on hate, I do not want kids to be raised persuaded without their will. While also removing part of their learning capabilities and reducing their capacity.
Cities will seem like labor mills to house the slaves, while being more aware of freedom than those truly free.
C’mon man Matrix was on this shit, if that’s too boring try adventure time.
(I don’t game anymore)
I think that to a degree we’re buying into the showmanship and claims of AI companies concerning the future, when the reality is that there are hard limits to the functionality of generative AI and LLMs. They want us to think that they’re building Rocco’s Basilisk because that’s some good terrifying viral marketing. But it isn’t true.
I’ve personally tried these tools at home. I’ve got LM Studio and ComfyUI on my PC. They’re novel and all, but they do have a hard limit to usefulness. You cannot rely on an information tool that returns the wrong information half the time. Not because it’s annoying but because people want and need to get stuff done, and ultimately AI will get in the way of getting stuff done.
It does not matter about the limit, if they can convince people to sell out. The kids are still fucked and delayed. Your dismissiveness devalues the harm a tool like this can do. Just how the internet spread rapidly facilatating crime and is only recently being wrangled. Social existence is centralized, intelligence can be too - then it can be sold at a subscription. With you the creator losing all ownership.
It’s just the head of the iceberg. Soon the rest will melt too.
I think the future will be somewhere between what we consider normal now and the austere dystopia you envision. This AI shit certainly isn’t making the world any better, that’s for sure.
While the order of magnitude is correct, running the bigger models is closer to playing a AAA game on 8 computers at the same time.
Yeah I did forget to consider that a lot of the web hosted models have a whole array of “experts” - Sub-LLMs that help fill in specialized information that a more generalized LLM wouldn’t have. Not a problem for someone running an AI model on their home computer but something that likely happens most times that you’re querying an AI online.
That’s also true, though it’s important to remember that the “experts” aren’t experts in the classical sense. Say you have a word made up of 3 tokens, it’s possible that each token is routed to a different expert. It’s just a model architecture.
people who complain about mountains of disposable diapers at landfills misunderstand the problem. it’s the poop of newborn babies that’s the problem, not the ones who have gone on to become adults. although to be fair their growing up increases the chance of more poop-producing babies.
but yeah sleeping around without birth control isn’t contributing to even one extra poop-filled diaper.