• loomi@lemmy.world
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    Nowhere in the Bible does a rock hard handsome man in his prime fighting years stare absently at an Excel worksheet.

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    Ironic, given that works of fiction often describe women through the eyes of Garth Algar.

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    However thanks to feminism women can now also experience the joys of being a wage-slave! Congratulations!

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      And single women, queer women, and women without families are able to survive by working, instead of being in extremely uncertain/abusive situations (or worse).

      So without sarcasm: thanks to feminism, women can experience wage-slaving. Better than being treated as subhumans, even if it’s still a crappy life.

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      Reminds me of when Bill Gates went to Saudi Arabia and argued for equal rights because it would double their workforce.

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      I am okay with supporting my wage slave partner for our fam 💪 I am not okay with women not having oppys to support themselves if they have no one but themselves

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      People thought that now, households can be twice as rich because they have double the income.

      Then all the prices increased so it’s as if both partners are paid half as much as they used to :(

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    8 months ago

    historically, bible-era slaves worked less hours than humans today, and were provided homes and meals. I’ll gladly be whipped a few hours a day if i had more free time

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      I think that depends on what kind of slave you were… Debt slavery, yeah not the worst thing that could happen. Penal slavery, or slave of war…? No thank you. Not much is really comparable to the fate of being a penal slave mining silver in Iberia. It was a death sentence carried out over a period of being worked to death while breaking rocks.

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      Yeah, because modern skeletons have the marks of heavy manual labour on them…

      Dude, you’ve bought into a lie. We definitely work less than people who had to fight to exist from day to day.

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        Yeah, because modern skeletons have the marks of heavy manual labour on them…

        Bro have you ever talked to anyone in the trades? They are all limping by 35.

        Not everyone gets a do-nothing laptop job.

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          I am in the trades (Journeyman Millwright, former sailor and diesel mechanic), over 35 and am not limping.

          It’s not standard for us to be that broken, that early. Most of the people who are, aren’t paying attention to how they are doing it.

          Not everyone breaks themselves in the trades.

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            It’s not really an adequate comparison. I work in orthopedics and rehabilitation, and modern people do indeed acquire specific chronic orthopedic ailments based on their occupation.

            Most of these injuries are acquired from jobs where you repeat specific motions all day. It doesn’t really mean you’ve done hard labour, more that you’ve over used specific muscle groups and joints.

            Btw I do agree with your general rebuttal, that any work back then was much more labour intensive. I just don’t know if that particular anthropological fact lends much weight to your argument.

            You’d probably get better information examining the average age of the working male. From anecdotal experience, hard labour is a young mans game. I work in oil country, and I don’t ever have any old rough necks as patients. At least not one’s whole are still working.

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        We do not “definitely “ work less. Modern Research by Graber, Wolff , Moss Finley & Peter Garnsey found plenty of evidence to challenge that view.

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          I’m not at home in this field. I have looked at Non-Slave Labour in the Greco-Roman World by Garnsey, and can probably hop on from there, but would you mind providing more details on the sources, e. g. are you referring to the economist Richard D. Wolff? Any particular papers / DOIs you could provide?

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    Of course not, because why would we stare at Excel sheets when it’s easier to write a Python script and use pandas to automate the staring part instead?

    How else do you think we stay so gorgeous?

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      Please, that would be a kingly dowery.

      Girls of childbearing age were 30 pieces of silver, girls who were younger were 3.