(In the case that someone in Lemmy still use Google)

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    Nobody will tell you, but keep the best for the last I guess – Yandex. Russian, results reminiscent of old 2005 open internet, has no regard for US DMCA laws or western Atlantic Council censorship laws. Undisputed and incomparable for web results, reverse image search, videos, anything. Preferably use a VPN though to get more search results variety and for extra privacy. Its privacy is better than Google/Bing, but worse than DDG, but DDG has high censorship.

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      8 months ago

      I would not use anything in Russia as Russia isn’t a democracy and does not allow freedom of the press

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      Do Russia have some fuck up law like USA that the government can access the data of Russian’s companies?

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        Probably but I have seen Yandex Disk being one of the main choices among pirate uploaders and game level creators, among other kinds of unusual people. You can use Yandex searching without an account, so I doubt it matters. And Yandex does not go around trying to track you outside of few Russian internet websites, from my observations, and its tracking is mostly limited to ad clicks and basic website counter.

        You can use Yandex with any VPN and enjoy its fruits with zero consequences.

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      Yeah, Yandex censors quite a bit, at least since the war with Ukraine:

      Yandex, the leading search engine for Russian speakers, has meanwhile tightened its censorship, removing independent media from its search results.

      And Yandex altered results to trash Navalny.

      But at least they have a banner when they’re likely censoring stuff.

      So I absolutely wouldn’t trust it for anything related to politics or Russian interests. Maybe it’s okay from a privacy and non-Russian interest perspective though, idk, but by default I don’t trust it because Russia is so repressive against media in its country.

      As for DuckDuckGo, here’s what I found:

      That said, it seems as if it’s just reducing the search ranking for Russian “disinformation,” not removing results. That’s annoying, but not as troublesome as Yandex or Google. BTW, I found all of those links through DDG, so it’s not like they’re trying to hide anything.

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        Yandex censors quite a bit](https://rsf.org/en/russian-journalism-chained-kremlin-s-systemic-censorship-0

        You posted content from RSF, which is a CIA propaganda outlet.

        The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) supports RSF’s reporting of media freedom violations throughout the world and especially in Asia.

        Yandex altered results to trash Navalny](

        Navalny was trashed by about 70% of Russian citizens in a mayor election. His approval rate was absymal, and he was only propped up by western countries to create infighting in Russia. This has been NATO’s motive ever since it was formed.

        So I absolutely wouldn’t trust it for anything related to politics or Russian interests. Maybe it’s okay from a privacy and non-Russian interest perspective though, idk, but by default I don’t trust it because Russia is so repressive against media in its country.

        You trust Google a lot, looking at your trust in Graphene and other stuff. Are you a western liberal by any chance? Because there is zero reason to trust western media that loves Zionism and genocide. On the other hand, west keeps lying about Russia and China doing genocides.

        Also, if you are posting western propaganda outlets like NYT, The Verge et al, I should also be able to post Russian sources on western propaganda. But you will claim it is “Kremlin” stuff and claim it is invalid, like you are saying about Yandex.

        That said, it seems as if it’s just reducing the search ranking for Russian “disinformation,” not removing results.

        DDG uses Bing’s index and shows western propaganda results.

        You are trying to poke the bear, and seem more suited to Reddit than Lemmy.