• RGB3x3@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Once you download a music file, nobody is taking it away from you.

    And CDs can have DRM just like any other digital media.

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      8 months ago

      No, a CD that carries the actual CD logo cannot have DRM. It is true that the music industry has often pushed ‘enhanced’ formats that look like CDs that do; SACD, for example.

      Ownership is different to possession, and I want to actually own my music, not just possess the files.

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        8 months ago

        No, a CD that carries the actual CD logo cannot have DRM.

        Is this true? If so, I’m guessing it’s purely due to limitations in the hardware, rather than lack of will? I can’t imagine CDs coming out these days and not having some sort of DRM.

        Nintendo was able to figure it out with GameCube games…

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          8 months ago

          You can definitely put DRM-protected content onto the physical CD media - that is exactly what SACD is. But then it isn’t an audio CD, even if it will play on a regular CD player. Search for “nonstandard or corrupted” on the Wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Digital_Audio .

          It’s my understanding that only conforming CDs can carry the CD logo. It’s usually on the case, not the disc itself, and it isn’t always there, particularly when the case isn’t a jewel case. All the same, I think that most things that look like CDs are conformant.

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            8 months ago

            Yeah, but I imagine that CD logo is a “stamp of quality” of sorts that tells you that the disc inside fits an agreed upon, unified set of standards. And one of those standards is “no DRM.”

            Point was, if that standard was created or updated today, there’s no shot that they wouldn’t require DRM.

            Maybe I’m wrong though and that’s not at all what the CD logo means.

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              8 months ago

              That’s true, but they did already try it and it didn’t catch on. There’s a section about it on the Wikipedia page (“Copy protection”).

              That section also mentions that Philips stated that these discs couldn’t have the CD logo on them. Since Philips was behind SACD, together with Sony, you’d think they wouldn’t have imposed that restriction on themselves if they had the choice.