Zilog: my time has come!
Only Chinese code is present, namely [lists three linux distros]
Linus Torvalds: *clears throat*
China Huawei’ing Linux
Oh wait
Are PC prices about to surge without cheap Chinese knock offs available?
What is very impressive is that they can easily supply their government without CPUs from Intel and AMD. Chinese semiconductor industry has come far.
Why are Rockchip, Allwinner and other Chinese companies allowed to sell their garbage in western countries?
Because open trade is a good thing?
In a bizarre turn of events, it seems the reclusive nation of North Korea has finally succumbed to the intense chip envy brought on by China’s recent announcement of its approved CPU list. In an effort to keep pace with neighboring rivals, Kim Jong-un ordered the immediate development of a state-of-the-art microchip. And thus, ‘The Juche Chip’ was born - named after North Korea’s philosophy of self-reliance.
After months of hard work, North Korean engineers presented their masterpiece: a CPU so advanced, it can run MS-DOS smoothly on Windows ME. This revolutionary breakthrough in computing technology also boasts an impressive clock speed that’s roughly equivalent to the rate at which time moves inside a Pyongyang prison cell. With the Juche Chip, users will never have to worry about lagging, overheating or any other technical issues because their system will freeze before such problems could even arise.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
AMD and Intel are not present on a list of processors approved by China’s Information Security Evaluation Center.
The x86 architecture does make the list, but only in chips made by Shanghai Zhaoxin Integrated Circuit Co., Ltd – which is minority-owned by Taiwan’s Via Technologies and holds a license to produce x86 processors.
The other approved chip shops make processors powered by Arm cores or, in the case of Loongson Technologies, the RISC-V architecture.
Second, the Financial Times found it over the weekend and reported that publication of the list accelerated efforts in China to replace Western tech and hardware with locally developed kit.
The FT chatted to some IT shops inside China and they confirmed that they’re phasing out items like PCs running Windows, because shop-at-home mandates have taken force.
Last week, authorities again called on web platforms to police more vigilantly the use of provocative typos and puns that can be construed as criticism of the Chinese Communist Party.
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Can’t even source their own chips. Need to buy from the real China, Taiwan.
China is a fucking joke.
Make RISC-V great again
Loongson is fully Chinese. Only the x86 chips have a Taiwan joint.
Yeah, only the most dominant, mature, and in-use instruction set.
When was the last time you ran a SPARC binary?
I was gonna say x64, but I just realized that that’s x86.
Anyways, none of these are SPARC either, and if they’re switching to another operating system, it seems logical for them to use ARM since Windows apps can’t run anyway
authorities again called on web platforms to police more vigilantly the use of provocative typos and puns that can be construed as criticism of the Chinese Communist Party.
Criticism? Jail. Puns? Jail. Spelling mistake? Believe it or not, jail. We have the highest literacy in the world. Because of jail.
This might just be for government computers, not the entire country - see https://www.ft.com/content/7bf0f79b-dea7-49fa-8253-f678d5acd64a
Still, the overall direction and intent is clear.
understandible given how the Americans are treating Huawei.
Well they probably know what they put in the CPUs they export to the US and Europe, so why would they?
Whatever that gets a RISC-V open source chip made i am supporting don’t care if its china or russia lets just hope this makes the giants follow along .
China, Russia, and open source? Hahaha
Execs from Huawei and Tencent are on the board of directors for the Linux Foundation.
That should set your alarm bells ringing.
I don’t know if it should. Linux is obviously important to the Chinese. The foundation also has employees from Intel, VMWare, Meta, Qualcomm, Microsoft, and all the Japanese electronics manufacturers on the board. If we are so afraid of China maybe we should pull all of our manufacturing back.
Isn’t that what we were trying to do? A slow pullback of manufacturing from Xiland in phases.
Obviously there isn’t a consensus. 187 House Republicans and 33 Senate Republicans voted against the CHIPS Act for example.
Yeah i also thought about it but decided to be optimistic for a sec
I’m all for critiquing China where it makes sense but this just seems like the same national security measures the West has taken in the past (Huawei 5G anyone?)
It’s also defacto mandating that their CCP approved Spyware chips are in place
Yeah! Can’t they just get Apple and Microsoft to postpone updates for exploit those vulnerabilities? Oh wait…
Hi, Europeans! This is a careful reminder to use Linux. Step away from yankee companies.
You’re getting downvoted but you are right, from a security standpoint Europe’s infrastructure is dangerously reliant on an increasingly unpredictable USA. The status quo was fine while Europe and the US agreed on pretty much every foreign policy but it’s becoming increasingly clear that the two blocks are slowly drifting in different directions. Eventually Europe’s reliance on US IT will become a problem.
It’s more like US guarantees are symbolic, at best. It should be obvious that Europeans don’t have jurisdiction in the US, and vice versa.
With the stance the US has against anything foreign, it becomes increasingly impossible to trust both their government bodies - and their software industry.
Like when people travel to the US, I recommend they get a new cheap throwaway smartphone, because the second you’re land on that US airport, you’re forced to give up all it’s data. Heck, even US citizens proper aren’t safe from the TSA.
Spyware chips are far more problematic than just using boring old software. Why bother when you can just bundle the spyware into your own Linux distro?
I mean more Arm on Linux sounds dope to me I guess
I like the power conservation but I hate the “SoC”
Ampere CPUs use normal DIMMs, and don’t have integrated storage, like any other CPU. So you can have the best of both worlds (although idk about power conservation, they are efficient though).
SoCs exist primarily for power efficiency. Long external bus lines and their respective controllers are very power hungry.
Also, tightly coupled RAM reduces latency and eases cache size requirements.
This isn’t the case for everybody, but I’d wager the vast majority of people never upgrade their RAM independently of their CPU these days. There was probably a spike once 8GB became generally insufficient a few years ago, but I have a hard time imagining the same thing will happen with 16GB configs until it’s time to hop on the DDR5 train.
I mean, i get it. But i wish the world would just work together on everything and stop with the country bullshit. Imagine the stuff we could make if everyone worked together.
Brothers, brothers! We should be struggling together!
So the Hygon Dhyana CPUs ended up not being different enough from the Zen 1 Epycs to make the list, then? Interesting.
100% someday they will use the approved CPU list to have only those with secure boot/locked bootloader enforcing only their approved operating systems too.
So, like our horrible cellphones
