Can’t wait to graduate so I don’t have to run Respondus and keep dealing with this crap

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    This is a thing that annoys me and it’s not just Microsoft doing this: there’s never a “No” button, it’s always “Not now” or “Maybe later”. As if i’m going to reconsider. As if it’s an honest offer worth thinking about and not a pop-up.

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      If anything, I’m even further disincentivised to log in if they’re threatening to remotely copy my hard drive. That just sounds like a scam.

      Pro Tip: You can create a local only account on a New PC as long as you skip connecting to wifi during setup.

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        With the current Windows 11 installer this doesn’t work anymore.
        But you can download the ISO, use Rufus to create a USB boot stick and disable all the requirements (account, RAM, TPM, CPU generation) in Rufus’ options. Also lets you auto-deny all telemetry options and create a user account without prompting.

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      This is what life is like for women. So many men are taught to not take “no” for an answer, and just keep pressuring her, waiting for her to wear down and give in.

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      It’s like an annoying kiosk salesman at the mall but he’ll show up in your livingroom when you least expect it.

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      I guess “no” implies “this is your only chance to permanently decide”.
      “Remind me later” is obviously going to be an annoying reminder.
      “Maybe later” or “Not now” indicates it can be changed later, but might also come with annoying reminders.

  • Io Sapsai 🌱@lemm.ee
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    Removing all the popups at work about scheduled updates, news, ads in a workplace with 8 desktops and zero people who speak English is my favourite past time. Thanks Microsoft.

    Also that post prompted me to remove windows from all my devices that still run it. Not that I didn’t think of it yesterday.

    I’m familiar with debian-based Linux distros and run Xubuntu on my travel laptop. It occasionally freezes and needs a forced reboot but otherwise runs ok. Any suggestions on what to install on this more powerful one? I use it for gaming but play older games.

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      I really enjoy Linux Mint and it is what I have been using for a while. Maybe give that a try if you have not already? If you want something with more up to date features and packages, maybe try Fedora. I have not really used it personally, but I am thinking of giving it a spin on one of my machines and seeing if I like it.

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          I recently put endeavouros on my laptop. Taking a bit to unlearn apt but it’s been running flawless with Nvidia so far. PopOS also supposedly just works with Nvidia as well.

      • Io Sapsai 🌱@lemm.ee
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        I backed up my data and downloaded the iso before going to work, once I get home I’ll give it a shot.

        I just want my computer to do what it’s told. Putting it to sleep and turning the mouse off doesn’t mean it should wake up, download and apply updates and remain awake only for me to find the search bar appeared again and a big red dot telling me what the former orange president of a country one continent and an ocean away said about something.

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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      Someone mentioned EndeavourOS. Really enjoy it for sure but it’s still Arch at heart for better and worse. You can follow a simple guide to install it with BTRFS and get system snapshots though! :)

      On my main 3D art rig I’m using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for years and loving it. Great sane security defaults, up to date packages, but they go through a bit of testing so for a rolling release it’s shockingly stable. I actually quite enjoy Zypper.

      If something borks? A rollback option is right there in GRUB.

      Steam works just fine and I’d also recommend (on any distro) Heroic Launcher for your non-Steam stuff. Especially since GoG seems to not care much about us penguin people much at all. -_-

      If you use KDE, both distros are going through some minor growing pains with Wayland at the moment, but it’s getting much better very quickly. X11 is still an option, of course.

      I run Endeavour on my laptop and OpenSUSE on my desktop…and…you might wanna be sitting down for this:

      …Both have Nvidia.

      It could be better but it’s a million times better than it used to be! Installs straight from repo. Only little issues I really have are Wayland-related.

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    Can’t wait to graduate so I don’t have to run Respondus and keep dealing with this crap

    Well, I’ve got some bad news depending on what industry you’re going into: the business world runs on Windows.

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        God I hate not being able to change FN and ctrl on a locked down mac that work gives me , also all the other limitations

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      Yeah this seems like a complete non-issue… All software has its problems and annoyances. Whether it’s Linux, MacOS or Windows they all have different levels of shit and annoying things you have to do.

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          Depends on the person and their usage. For many Windows is the most appropriate.

          Dont be a blind fanboy and just say that there is only solution for an OS and that’s Linux. If there’s one OS then it will inevitably get shit itself.

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              Your point is “Windows is the worst of the bunch”.

              It’s pretty basic/has no value… Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to disprove.

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                again re read the context. worst of the bunch in regards to the specific topic we were discussing.

                in the future consider if you think someone is making such a stupid comment, maybe you are misunderstanding something.

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                  I use Windows, and I honestly never see this stuff at all.

                  Haven’t used Linux/MacOS in a long time now but from this specific perspective they all appear the same to me. Or at worst, it’s easy to disable.

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    Can’t wait to graduate so I don’t have to run Respondus and keep dealing with this crap.

    Install it on ReactOS, lol.

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    Graduation unlocks all the white collar career paths, and your inevitable induction to enterprise IT spyware and power tripping local admins.

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    Respondus used to work on Linux. Maybe reach out to their support? It involves copying a DLL somewhere and using Wine, but that’s how I did my exams

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    Casually watching Windows users complain about Windows when I’ve been shilling Linux for 10 years strong.

    Seriously though, I’m actually wondering where the Windows lovers will finally draw the line.

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        They probably downvoted because sometimes your job or education strictly requires Linux-incompatible software, and you can’t do anything about it;

        but then again, 9 out of 10 of those people spare absolutely no effort to move their eggs out of the metaphorical Windows basket.

        • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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          They should get mad at the people that force them to use proprietary garbage to do basic tasks. I love that I don’t have to use Windows at work but I also work for a company that understands there’s a job to do and the best tools aren’t corporate schlock.

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        the downvotes are because the post specifically mentions Respondus, a software that does not run on Linux. the knee jerk didn’t-read-the-post response comments are not really helpful to people who don’t have a choice, not because they “refuse to admit defeat” come on now.

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      Learning Linux is a pain in the ass. The line is where Windows becomes less and less convenient until it is more of a pain in the ass than Linux. It’s a blurry line for some people, but for me the combination of hiding settings so I need to enter the fucking registry to change them and then serving me pop up ads on my own machine crossed the line.

      But fucking hell learning linux is still a pain in the ass.

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          Nothing more specific than just the learning curve. Having to use the terminal, learn commands, etc. Just basic program installation requires me to look up how to do it. I’m currently learning via my steamdeck too, so cumbersome typing doesnt help matters, but I plan on installing on a desktop PC so I can experiment more easily. Picking a distro can be complicated too - I think I just want to use the same as what’s on the Steamdeck but I need to do research to figure out if I should. That research alone is a bit of the pain in the ass. I can do it, but I needed to be motivated but corporate bullshit to actually do it.

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    I have the notification system completely disabled through the group policy manager and I still get certain notifications once in a while after an update. And yesterday when I turned on my PC, it had added their bullshit Copilot AI to the bottom right of the taskbar which had its own notifications. 😡

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      It gets better if you backup and then get the prompt again after the next feature update of windows - because you get asked again and if you click on it will do a second backup which means that now all files are twice in your OneDrive, then three times, then four times, then… a reminder to upgrade OneDrive further as your storage is full.

      I had to clean up this less more than once now for people and even witnessed it live after doing the upgrade for them sigh

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    At this point the EU should just set a timer for complaining that Microsoft uses Windows’ large market share to force services on their users. I do like efficient governments.

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    I got a BACK UP WITH ONE DRIVE window yesterday on my Windows 10 PC, but it had an option to remind me again in 1 year

    Probably, because I’m from the EU…

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        OneDrive does work for many people. But not everyone wants it. They might have other tools, not have reliable internet, or just not want it. That’s doesn’t mean Windows should keep pestering.

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    if your workload works on linux id recommend it, im not aware of any distro that pulls that bullshit.

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      the post states that op needs to run Respondus, which is proprietery spyware anti-cheat for school tests (doesnt run on linux)

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          i can confirm: ew is correct. it has admin priviledges and literally scans all running programs and captures every key press. u cant even ctrl+alt+del without it reporting it and closing itself.

          it seems ironic to require cyber security students to install windows and respondus just to pass the course…

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            I just graduated with my degree in CSEC and, while my college luckily never had us do that, I know at least 10 people who would have found a way to trick it somehow into reporting false data

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              I’m sure it can tell that the hardware it’s on or drivers being used is virtualized.

              But unless it’s using your webcam to track your eye movements or you’re in a supervised space, you could use your phone or second computer.

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                i’ve heard that too. there may be ways to spoof baremetal, but you’ll probably get in some trouble if its found out. i personally havent had to use the webcam (yet)

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        It’s crazy how I know which comment you meant. Lemmy still feels more like living in a small village where everyone knows everyone. Or it was just pure coincidence, who knows.

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      Yes! It really is that. Just like how so many men are taught to never take “no” as an answer from a woman, and to keep pestering her until she gives in.

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      Every shopping site now wants you to sign up for some kind of discount or offer as well.

      Instead of “No thanks” or “No, I don’t want to subscribe”, the reject button always says “No, I want to pay full price” or “No, I don’t like savings” and other manipulative bs.

      Makes me not want to shop there.

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        And a lot of them don’t even wait for you to find something to buy, you just show up and it’s “HEY DO YOU WANT A DISCOUNT?”

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      YouTube shorts are my latest annoyance. They give you an x to hide it then says we’ll try again in 30 days. Shorts were a dumb idea on vine, a dumber idea on tiktok, and just about the dumbest idea on YouTube. If I wanted a sub-30 second clip I’d watch a gif.

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          I wouldn’t even mind them as much if they showed you who posted the short before you watched it. There are a few creators I like enough that I’d watch shorts by, but I’ve got no way to know it’s by them

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          I like short form content too, but not on my longer form content website. And I wouldn’t want ten minute videos on my movie service.

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          I agree. Shorts are just a way for me to discover new creators when I’m on the toilet since my recommendations page sucks now and never recommends new creators to me.

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            Collaberations and word-of-mouth are the main ways I find new creators, the algorithm sucks at understanding the finer points.

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        I would argue that they were a good idea on Vine. It allowed them to stay away from other platforms.

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      We need a community! I am really annoyed by this, it is rapey and gaslighting and abusive. Another one they started to do is “You are almost finished with your updates”, updates that i didn’t request nor allow.

      We need words, customized pitchforks and a leader to recover dignity!

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      This whole rapey lingo needs to fucking die already.

      Maybe widely name-calling this practice for what it is could help steer companies away from this disgusting pattern.

      Should we start refering to pop-ups that give no option to say “no” as something like “rape-ups”?

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      The other annoying thing they (esp. MS) do is pop up messages like “The whole process of saving files has changed while you were asleep [learn more][got it]” and here, when you need it, there’s never an option for “remind me later”. So you either have to stop what you’re doing and go and read a massive blog entry that’s not actually relevant to the task in hand or you need to dismiss the message and never be able to find it when it’s actually relevant

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      Linux/FreeBSD and piracy are like the only way to mostly avoid this crap now lol.

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          There’s at all plenty one can do with FOSS stuff without needing to resort to that, but ya, in geraral that’s true

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      I’ve also felt the “impossible to say no” lingo is awful. “remind me later” fuck off