Another poster has linked you to his video on this topic. Yes, he said some very stupid things to provoke discussions and reactions, and the whole thing was both immature and misguided. But shouldn’t you be able to say “I did some very stupid things and will do better in the future”?
If he did something similar more recently, I’d be with you - tar and feather him, and exclude him from the community. But he hasn’t (afaik). Mistakes shouldn’t brand you forever, as long as you’re honestly doing better and working against those mistakes.
Pretty recently, there was the incident of his porn folder being leaked on stream. H3H3 had a pretty good breakdown I thought, but the basic premise is: it’s true, a lot of his past rhetoric has a lot of plausible deniability. I.e. Him using extreme examples to make what is a good point, lots of the clips turn out to just be him being baited to talk about his old clips, making it seem like he talks about it a lot more than he does, many clips are actually making the opposite point of what the clip implies he’s making etc.
The thing is, he also has plenty of clips of him saying that consuming lolicon is sus and someone doing that should be scrutinized. And the thing is, the couple images that showed up (just a random sampling of recent porn he had downloaded) contained pretty unequivocal lolicon. And the worst thing was, in his two response videos he made to the H3H3 podcast, he didn’t mention this central criticism of the podcast even once except for some vague allusion to plausible deniability about how old the girls looked. He didn’t take responsibility, he didn’t promise to examine himself or change, he just tried to sweep it under the rug and go for the much more easily defended points about the horses and various out of context clips. (The H3H3 podcast actually did an incredible job putting it all into context and for the most part they ended up seeing Vaushes side in most of the bad-faith clips.)
But as the podcast says, what Vaush is relying on is that no one in his audience actually sees the images that were on his hard drive, (which to be fair, it doesn’t show up on a quick Google search, and it’s not very pleasant to go hunting for the photos)
Yeah H3H3 did two because vaush responded to the first one and they weren’t satisfied (cause as I said, he never directly addressed the core accusation)
Idk, I know it’s a lot to get someone to work through like 6 hours of content, especially when it’s pretty grody. I have a routine that allows me to put super long videos like these on in the background but that’s unique.
No, thank you for the recommendation! If I post comments defending him, I want to be informed of such things happening, because it will affect whether I keep doing it.
I’ll hopefully remember to reply once I got through it all.
Another poster has linked you to his video on this topic. Yes, he said some very stupid things to provoke discussions and reactions, and the whole thing was both immature and misguided. But shouldn’t you be able to say “I did some very stupid things and will do better in the future”?
If he did something similar more recently, I’d be with you - tar and feather him, and exclude him from the community. But he hasn’t (afaik). Mistakes shouldn’t brand you forever, as long as you’re honestly doing better and working against those mistakes.
Pretty recently, there was the incident of his porn folder being leaked on stream. H3H3 had a pretty good breakdown I thought, but the basic premise is: it’s true, a lot of his past rhetoric has a lot of plausible deniability. I.e. Him using extreme examples to make what is a good point, lots of the clips turn out to just be him being baited to talk about his old clips, making it seem like he talks about it a lot more than he does, many clips are actually making the opposite point of what the clip implies he’s making etc.
The thing is, he also has plenty of clips of him saying that consuming lolicon is sus and someone doing that should be scrutinized. And the thing is, the couple images that showed up (just a random sampling of recent porn he had downloaded) contained pretty unequivocal lolicon. And the worst thing was, in his two response videos he made to the H3H3 podcast, he didn’t mention this central criticism of the podcast even once except for some vague allusion to plausible deniability about how old the girls looked. He didn’t take responsibility, he didn’t promise to examine himself or change, he just tried to sweep it under the rug and go for the much more easily defended points about the horses and various out of context clips. (The H3H3 podcast actually did an incredible job putting it all into context and for the most part they ended up seeing Vaushes side in most of the bad-faith clips.)
But as the podcast says, what Vaush is relying on is that no one in his audience actually sees the images that were on his hard drive, (which to be fair, it doesn’t show up on a quick Google search, and it’s not very pleasant to go hunting for the photos)
I hadn’t heard about that. Are you referring to this episode? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H61pA1ZPTs8
I’ll try to watch it over the next few days. Thanks for the notice!
Yeah H3H3 did two because vaush responded to the first one and they weren’t satisfied (cause as I said, he never directly addressed the core accusation) Idk, I know it’s a lot to get someone to work through like 6 hours of content, especially when it’s pretty grody. I have a routine that allows me to put super long videos like these on in the background but that’s unique.
No, thank you for the recommendation! If I post comments defending him, I want to be informed of such things happening, because it will affect whether I keep doing it.
I’ll hopefully remember to reply once I got through it all.
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