The lead plaintiff in the case, Nyree Hinton, bought a used Model Y with less than 37,000 miles (59,546 km) on the odometer. Within six months, it had pushed past the 50,000-mile (80,467 km) mark, at which point the car’s bumper-to-bumper warranty expired. (Like virtually all EVs, Tesla powertrains have a separate warranty that lasts much longer.)
For this six-month period, Hinton says his Model Y odometer gained 13,228 miles (21,288 km). By comparison, averages of his three previous vehicles showed that with the same commute, he was only driving 6,086 miles (9,794 km) per 6 months.
Edit: I just want to point out that I just learned that changing your tires to ones of a different diameter can also affect how your spedometer clocks. So yeah, this issue is full of nuance and plausible things as to why this could not be true.
It is weird that he probably saw Danny DeVito rolling back the odometers in Matilda while in a K hole and misconstrued the whole situation. That scene of Danny with the drill taking thousands of miles off an old beater probably seemed like a jackpot idea in that drug addled mind of his.
Hey man, drugs have nothing to do with his mind. It was that way before drugs were involved
Well I’m curious to find out what discovery will show.
Maybe location tracking from Google maps giving a date when the car was driven and where, with a simple excel of distances calculated and tallied up for a given month or two.
If the owner had a photo of the dash with the distance reported a few months earlier start there to see if the report distance matches what the excel table totals up.
Like they can’t even be competent enough to hire a hitman to kill their whistleblowers. Boeing are just laughing at them.
You mean the guy that thinks we live in a simulation and he’s the player and we are all NPCs is cheating to give himself an advantage? I’m shocked.
Hah, I’m not convinced that interpretation is wrong. It’s weird how influential he’s been on the world, right?
I mean if this is that sort of simulation, he’s probably a player right?
Because he was born rich and failed up his entire life?
That’s true, but there are a lot of those people in the world, tens of thousands. Where are all they in the news? He seems different in some way, right? Do you know the name of the CEO of Hasbro or Ford or CocaCola? I bet they’re rich, I bet they grew up rich…
They’re smart enough to stay out of the spotlight and Elon isn’t.
Though Jim Farley, CEO of Ford, has a podcast. So perhaps not the best example.
So you think the main difference between Elon and other rich people is that other rich people keep a low profile?
So does that mean you think that other ultra wealthy people are just as influential (and damaging to the world) as Elon? Because I don’t doubt that the ultra wealthy are problematic in general, but I think Elon is worse, like in a big way. And he’s been changing a lot in the world for the last 20 years, like a lot more than literally anyone I can think of.
Good thing we have the CFPB to register and punish companies for shady practices like th…oh, nevermind.
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Or intentionally?
A odometer is a smell sensor, no?
No
But odor!
Hodor
How silly, it’s obvious that would be an odormeter. An odometer is about something else entirely.
Obviously!
That’s a smellometer!
Let’s use the Smelloscope!
They don’t install those in new cars, you need one made in the ol’factory.
In the past, Tesla lawyers even initiated lawsuits against customers who dared to criticize the quality of their cars or services. Such cases are documented and therefore not fake news. Last week, moreover, DOGE dismantled the department responsible for safety control and approval of new cars entering the market. Tesla experienced too many problems with this department in the past and now, through DOGE, took the opportunity to simply dismantle it. Moral of the story… buy a Tesla, a “safe” decision.
That’s 70 miles a day, for anyone who doesn’t want to do the math. I don’t know where Hinton lives, but that’s almost two laps around all of the highways surrounding the city I live in. That’s 2 hours of driving on surface roads, not including stop lights and stop signs.
I wonder how much money Tesla has saved by breaking the law this way?
Or about 11 swedish miles per day.
What’s that in Ikea meatballs?
What Swedish mile?
The unity mile, of course. It’s 10,688.54 m.
112 km a day, not a bad commute by Toronto standards - it’s one way for the Barrie to Toronto drivers
Sure, but it’s an additional 70 miles. Not something that would go unnoticed.
Why is proprietary in devices we purchase bad? This right here. We are connected to the internet 24/7. Companies hiding what they control and what they collect is bad.
Has anyone compared it to a GPS?
Just fit your own dashcam. Some models have GPS logging so you can track where it is every second of driving.
Another way would be to log OBDII metrics, and compare the vehicle speed, odometer and time. If you don’t get s=d/t then something is up.
The dash cam would work. I wouldn’t trust obd because they could be sending the same info through or doing some VW diesel gate stuff. Maybe comparing obd to waze to what’s displayed on screen would be better. When I mount different size tires on my vehicles I use waze to compare the speed on the speedometer vs waze. Most vehicles in the past read faster than it was going, it’s only in the past few years I’ve seen them being more accurate, around when telemetry started being more prevalent.
I tested my car and the speedometer, trip meter and OBD give 3 completely different values. It’s kind of expected because all manufacturers make overreading speedometers.
I think comparing trip meter/odometer, OBD and GPS is the way to go. It would be amusing if Teslas are programmed to behave when something is monitoring it over OBD.
Feels like they should be able to view the software and hardware controlling the odometer, and if it’s doing anything suspicious.
I wonder if they’ll actually do anything if they find Tesla is doing fraud. Feel like everyone who OK’d the decision should be barred from working in the industry for life, and made to forfeit everything they gained while doing the fraud.
While I’m making magical wishes, I’d also like Musk and all of his followers to choke to death.
This is one case, right? If the judge finds against Tesla, everyone who had repairs occur within 10% or 20% of the warranty expiration date could be part of a class action suit, and probably that would be easy for them to win.
Changing your tire sizing only changes the speedo and odo a few percent. You can usually just ignore it unless you’re making drastic changes.
Yeah for the odo to do that, you need to put golf cart wheels on a Tesla.
Yeah aeems a pretty useless edit for an obvious fact. Especially as in this case you would need tires half the circumstance of the original to make sense… Gotta be some tiny tires…
Edit, had it the wrong way around
Hey Siri how do I convert from inches to circumstance
The speedometer is also predictive.
Is it accurate though? Your mileage may vary.
You know this is fake cause it’s not on garbage touchscreen
it gets stuck at 45 convenently
appropriate how 88 lines up on the dial…
That’s when you travel back in time to when things were still alright.
From Berlin to Warsaw in one tank.
That’s sooo many individual felonies.
Yet another reason for Elon to wreck all the agencies investigating him.
he said he was afraid to go to jail if harris won.
