The lawsuit seeks to upend a major part of Apple’s business.

The US Department of Justice and 16 state and district attorneys general accused Apple of operating an illegal monopoly in the smartphone market in a new antitrust lawsuit. The DOJ and states are accusing Apple of driving up prices for consumers and developers at the expense of making users more reliant on its iPhones.

  • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyzEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Saying one is wrong, or doesn’t know what they’re talking about, is not ad hominem. Maybe it’s a language thing, but to me saying someone is wrong is equivalent to saying their argument is wrong. And saying someone is out of their element/depth is the same as saying they’re wrong on the subject, aka their argument is wrong.

    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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      8 months ago

      You don’t just say that I was wrong. You used a personal insult, and you even admit that you could have chose too not use an insult but chose to anyway, repeatedly. And, still, rather than use any evidence to make your argument, you can’t stop yourself from continuing to insult and bully.

      And YOU don’t get to choose what is insulting to ME. That’s some serious gaslighting DARVO shit.

      • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyzEnglish
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        8 months ago

        A personal attack would be more like: “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl.”

        But nobody has told you that “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl.”

        If anyone actually did say “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl”, then I could understand you taking it as an ad hominem attack.

        Alas, I’m glad nobody here is sinking so low as to say to you that “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl.”

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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          8 months ago

          So, you are so deluded as to think that saying it 4 times in that little tantrum “isn’t saying it”?

          I must’ve really upset you, which is ironic, because I was nowhere nearly as offended as you seem to be now. Which actually makes me feel much better. Lol.

          • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyzEnglish
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            8 months ago

            I didn’t say “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl” to you, I said I’m glad that nobody said “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl” to you.

            Would you like me to say “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl” to you? I don’t want to kink shame if that’s your bag, you know, people denigrating you and telling you “You are such a whiny little bitch with a persecution complex and it’s apparent you are so lonely because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit irl”.

            Just let me know, either way.

            • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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              8 months ago

              This is just DARVO, right out of the Narcissist abuser’s handbook

              • Step 1. Deny. The process begins with adamant refusal to accept any responsibility or acknowledge having a role or any involvement in the harmful behavior or actions. The truthful account of the events is stridently rejected and minimized. Denial seeks to deflect blame. Consequently, it also implies that it is in fact the perpetrator who is being subjects to an injustice by being wrongly accused of something they did not do. Denial distorts or disregards the reality of a situation.
              • Step 2. Attack. The second stage of DARVO involves character assassination with the aim of redirecting blame onto the person who confronted the perpetrator, scapegoating the innocent party and burdening them with accountability for the crimes of the aggressor. By shifting blame away from themselves, manipulators preserve their self-image, reputation, and/or position of power. It shields them from criticism and negative judgment. DARVO attacks often involve victim-blaming, distorting facts, minimizing the impact of their own actions, and exaggerating the faults of whoever confronts the perpetrator. The attack is essentially a smear campaign.
              • **Step 3. Reverse Victim and Offender. **Once the character assassination has formed a critical mass of bystanders who are successfully deceived by the manipulator’s false narrative, the victim-survivors is subjects to the painful process of scapegoating. Thus the final stages of DARVO sees the victim cast as a villain, while the perpetrator is exonerated. The reversal of victim and offender relies on pre-existing biases, stereotypes, or prejudices. It is often used to animate bystanders into persecuting and punishing the victim-survivor.
              • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyzEnglish
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                8 months ago

                You shouldn’t self diagnose like that, Greg. I’d encourage you to seek professional help to work through any demons you feel you might have.

                • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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                  8 months ago

                  projection: just another weapon from your narcissist’s abuser’s handbag

                  • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyzEnglish
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                    8 months ago

                    See there you go again, Greg. Best to let the professionals diagnose you. Even doctors go to see other doctors when they have medical concerns about themselves.