• davel@lemmy.ml
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        8 months ago

        Kneeling for the US flag is kneeling for an imperialist bourgeois state, which is incompatible with communism at the most fundamental level. This meme looks like a patriotic socialist brainworms

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          It depends on what you interpret kneeling to mean. In the US, kneeling for the flag or kneeling for the national anthem is a form of protest when tradition dictates that you should stand with your hand over your heart. In recent years, the act has made news due to NFL players (starting with Colin Kaepernick) kneeling in protest of police brutality and racial inequality in the US. It is not an act of reverence as if you were kneeling before a ruler or deity.

          Kneeling for the US flag and supporting communism/socialism and LGBTQ rights are all very leftist concepts.

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            8 months ago

            If would be a good meme if it actually made reference to Kaepernick. Kneeling for a symbol is historically honorary, so without Kaepernick the meme is ambiguous. It wasn’t so much that Kaepernick was kneeling, it was that he was not standing for the flag with everyone else.

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              If you’re unfamiliar with America and it’s traditions, I can see your point. Americans don’t need the extra visual aid. “Kneeling for the flag” only means one thing.

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                  Fair. I can only speak about my lived experience. It may have faded from the public eye, but when I was living in the states, just saying the word “kneel” would have gotten half the population frothing at their mouth.

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    I don’t understand the meme. It doesn’t even make sense ironically. I assume it’s agenda of the insane, a troll, or misclicking off shitposts—though I imagine it wouldn’t even make sense there.

    I’ll just land on the assumption that OP is nonsensical and “memes” are their outlet of instability.

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          Its not about that, this originated from the outrage when Collin Kapernik was taking the knee during the national anthem.

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            Kneeling for religions doesn’t make any sens. Religions always has a purpose for it’s symbolism and rites, you kneel for a reason. Here it’s for the dead.

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                And all of them are reasons to kneel for, religion itself isn’t a reason, religion gives you a reason.

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                  The argument was made that the kneeling was for a fallen soldier. I don’t think that interpretation is correct. You, too, seem to agree that that’s not the only reason to kneel for the cross.

                  Edit: Upon a bit more reflection, this particular graphic for this saying could mean a dead soldier since it’s a soldier praying. And crosses are sometimes used for soldiers’ grave markers. But not always. And you can find soldiers praying in front of other crosses. And soldiers don’t pray only for the dead when kneeling before a cross. I’d have to ask the artist her intentions.

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              A cross can be a grave marker, but so can a tombstone. The phrase is “I kneel for the cross.” The cross symbolizes a religion, not dead people.

              The whole saying, “I stand for the flag. I kneel for the cross,” is used by many more people than just soldiers.