• Unruffled [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    Just a quick update, lemmy.world has posted an update that explains their decision here: https://lemmy.world/post/13319613

    TLDR is that the person who removed the community is fairly new to the mod team and didn’t realize there was a bit of a history to this situation. Also, looks like they are sticking with the decision this time around though.

    Please don’t harass the lemmy.world admins/mods though - if you don’t like the situation you are free to register here or on another instance. And if you aren’t a lemmy.world user, then this doesn’t affect you at all.

    I’m proud of our community here, and it’s their loss, not ours! pirate captain giving the thumbs up

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      The translation is, “It wasn’t us don’t get angry, but also it kind of was one of us and also we are sticking by the decision so it may as well have been us.” I don’t really see that it matters if the story is true - in the best possible case they’re just saying that they don’t have a way of setting policies and having those policies be followed.

      If we’ve learned anything from centralised platforms it’s that size doesn’t protect platforms from the consequences of making bad decisions.

    • Dasnap@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Guess who just created a second account 👍

      Would be nice if there was a Firefox extension or something to ‘merge accounts’ as a workaround. Make things a little easier in situations like this.

  • Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If any admins of lemmy.world are around, I created c/westcoastedm for the explicit reason of sharing copyright protected music. Can you ban it too? Wouldn’t want to get you guys in trouble with mommy and daddy.

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    Well I guess that shows why I main kbin and not lemmy.world. Absolute dogshit decision from them.

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      The part that annoys me is that this was done silently even though last time they said they would ask their users. Hopefully it was just an admin that didn’t get the last memo.

      Edit: the community -> their users

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        I suspect something involving law enforcement or legal. Still would love if LW admins updated on this.

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      6 months ago

      Indeed, especially with 0.19 that allows you to migrate your subs and block lists in two clicks

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        6 months ago

        Wish that was around when I moved from lemmy.world to lemm.ee some time ago. It would have saved me a bit of time. Nice that it’s there for the future, though.

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    The speed that this happened suggests they might have gotten spooked by something. Put down the pitchforks mates and give them a chance to explain first.

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      I have four accounts on the four instances that host communities I am interested in.

      It’s a mild pain and definitely not what we were promised, but I guess that’s the only way federation can really work in practice (especially considering when an instance is blocked user on the blocker side just continue to see it frozen in time, with no warning as to what’s going on)

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        It’s a mild pain and definitely not what we were promised

        I think this is precisely what the ActivityPub model of federation promised, actually 😅

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            and if you’re really technical and really want to you can even bypass other people’s defederation attempts against you.

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            Takes away some of the anonymity though, even with domain registrar obfuscation etc., they’d probably disclose the owner to a request from whatever authority comes knocking. And if you’re based in a jurisdiction where piracy is explicitly forbidden, federating with db0 and effectively co-hosting links to prohibited content might open a whole other can of worms. And not everyone is technically competent enough to run and maintain an instance, even if the initial setup works out with one of the how-to’s.

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        Same. Beehaw is my main, but I also have a Kbin account (which I know is technically different), and then a LW account, which I almost never sign into.

        Even my Mastodon account is separate. It’s fine this way. I don’t need everything on one account. With a password manager, it’s not like I have to remember passwords anyway.

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        I think a solution would be to have instances without communities.

        It sucks, but I’m really trying to find instances with the most federation. I’d rather censor things myself than to have some useful idiot do it for me.

        “Instance A blocked instance B, so now we have to use instance C to communicate with both.” Seems kind of roundabout, which is why I’m looking for the ‘ever-C’ instance that federates with the most.

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          I mean, the real end solution is to host your own server. Then you can federate/defederate with whoever the hell you want. As long as you don’t do anything to get banned from a specific instance, you’ll be fine.

          But that’s more work than most people are willing to put into a Reddit clone.

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          The issue is that depending on where the Instance is located can mean that the person is liable for the content on their instance, or at least some corps will try to take them to court over that.

          It would be really nice to have something you’ve described, but then who hosts the community and becomes liable?

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            Someone’s always going to be liable, that’s unavoidable.

            I’m just spitballing ideas for how we can always connect to the servers we want to.

            @Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com hit the nail on the head. Self-hosting would be the end goal, but it’s too much of a hassle for most people to go through.

            So a few servers that exist solely to connect with the fediverse would be ideal for those people.

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    6 months ago

    So did I miss a setting where an instance can ban remote communities for its user base? I know a user can ban individual communities now but I didn’t realize it could be done at an instance level for all users of that instance.