even if you disable the feature, I have zero to no trust I’m OpenAI to respect that decision after having a history of using copyrighted content to enhance their LLMs
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They literally tell you when you sign up that they can and will look at what you tell ChatGPT. This changes absolutely nothing about that.
Maybe for training new models, which is a totally different thing. This update is like everything you type will be stored and used as context.
I already never share any personal thing on these cloud-based LLMs, but it’s getting more and more important to have a local private LLM on your computer.
Always has been. Nothing has changed. Every conversation you’ve ever had with chatGPT is stored and owned by open AI. This is why I’ve largely rejected their use.
If it’s not local or E2EE, you are the product (even when you pay for the service).
But the fact they OpenAI stored all input typed doesn’t mean you can make a prompt and ChatGPT will use it as context, unless you had that memory feature turned on (which allowed you to explicitly “forget” what you choose from the context).
You’re confusing what it means OpenAI to have a conversation stored and ChatGPT using that text and searchable context for every prompt you make.
I think you might be confused about the difference between giving the LLM access to your stored conversations during your session and using OpenAI using AI to search your stored conversations.
What the LLM has access to during your session changes nothing but your session.
It’s not some “I, Robot” central AI that either has access or doesn’t as a whole.
I assumed they would log everything and create a profile in you from day one. I signed up with a fresh email account.
Bold of you to assume this wasn’t already happening in some form.
Some people are still in the dark or outright denial stages about how all of these companies operate and their dual purpose operations.
I think this is great. One of the main reasons I’ve been paying for the subscription is the limited memory of the free version. Now, the more I use it, the more it remembers about me and references things I’ve mentioned in past conversations. Sure, there are potential privacy concerns, but the same goes for commenting on Lemmy - I don’t tell ChatGPT anything I wouldn’t be comfortable sharing here.
You’re getting down-voted, but, yes, this change only really affects user experience.
I don’t know why anyone would think that what the LLM can access for context during your session is a limiting factor for what OpenAI has access to.
If this change freaks you out, the time for you to be freaked out about history was the moment they started storing it.
Same thing with having all your shit in “cloud”
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ai systems that get to know you over your life
That’s not as attractive as Sam Altman thinks it is.
If we knew it was altruistic, and only working for our benefit, it might be.
But as it is, it is not working for you, you are not its master.
Big corps and governments are.Snitched by chat because of a fun drug moment.
First it makes you trust it, then it turns on you.
It’s interesting to watch from a perspective of a person, who used to be able to find knowledge only in books. I’m slowly start to feel like Neanderthal. This global (d)arpanet experiment on humans looks more and more intriguing.
AI is just a search engine you can talk to that summarizes everything it finds into a small nugget for you to consume, and in the process sometimes lies to you and makes up answers. I have no idea how people think it is an effective research tool. None of the “knowledge” it is sharing is actually created by it, it’s just automated plagiarism. We still need humans writing books (and websites) or the AI won’t know what to talk about.
Books are going to keep doing just fine.
Books are going to keep doing just fine.
Books haven’t been the go to for several decades. When’s the last time you went to search something in a library before Googling it? Or hell, in general. Because we used to have to do that you know. When I was a kid and I wanted to know something, I had to cycle to library.
Now I can ask my phone about it, then ask it for the source, then check the source and I can use a search engine to find an actual book on the source on the subject.
It’s a tool.
It’s a poor craftsman who blames his tools. If you’re trying to use a hammer as a screwdriver, ofc it’s gonna suck.
Both the tool and the craftsman are to blame if you intend to use duct tape to build a house. The appropriate and acceptable uses of AI chatbots are similarly limited.
Yeah I’m not gonna build a house with duct tape, but I most definitely like keeping a roll around, because it’s very useful in certain situations.
As of now LLM’s are little more than glorified chatbots, but I find them useful when cooking / making drinks. I’ll have an idea, query something, ask about whether it’s generally thought that x spice goes well in y dish or how the temperature of a drink will affect the layering of it or something.
It’s decent enough for that. But like for any data that’s not as stable as cooking (which is subjective at its core anyway more or less) etc, it’s not good. Movie released for instance? Nah. Because the release dates change and the batch of data it’s uses for training can have a different date than it does.
That happened in December when Kraven the Hunter was coming out. It told me it had premiered like 6 months ago when I knew it was gonna be in a week or so.
But on the other hand I once accidentally made this cool drink where I got bits of pineapple to go up and down for 10-15 minutes after served, pretty furiously. Couldn’t replicate it until I talked to Gemini for a minute. And the input would’ve been so niche it would’ve yielded no direct results online. I’d have had to refresh some basic chemistry for at least 10-20 min prolly. But now I just got the answer in one.
Decent enough.
I know AI is overhyped, but it’s also overhated. I too hate the overhyping, but I don’t hate the tool itself. It’s just not anywhere near as versatile or complex as some people make it out to be, but it’s also rather more useful than some make it out to be.
It’s all because it’s cheaper to talk to LLM machine that outputs most probable phrases based on statistics than to talk to people these days. It’s accessibility thing. You have a feeling that you’re speaking with a person, it’s whole trick. It says much about who we are as people.
Amount of effort needed to ask questions and not being hated in real life is way bigger than asking LLM.
Adding more to the topic of AI as a whole is that you need to realize that we have completly new kind of computer software that is non deterministic. It’s a completly new thing and comparing it to traditional software is just pointless and confusing.
I’m not saying I would provide my life to LLM, but the fact that we developed software that is always generating readable output is a huge step in software development.
What worries me, is all the info from those conversations actually becoming public. I haven’t fed it personal info, but I bet a lot of people do. Not only stuff you might tell it, but information fed from people you know. Friends, family, acquaintances, even enemies could say some really personal or downright false things about you to it and it could one day add that to public ChatGPT. Sounds like some sort of Black Mirror episode, but I think it could happen. Wouldn’t be surprised if intelligence agencies already have access to this data. Maybe one day cyber criminals or even potential employers will have all this data too.
In related news:
Blocking outputs isn’t enough; dad wants OpenAI to delete the false information.
Where is this being stored? What is the capacity? How many accounts would be needed to overflow storage?
This only works if you have an account and sign in. Don’t do that and have your browser clear Cookies and Site Data at quit and the problem is solved.
If you’re not on a VPN they might still log your IP and connect your chats in the back end though.
Duck.AI on tor browser
I’m not going to defend OpenAI in general, but that difference is meaningless outside of how the LLM interacts with you.
If data privacy is your focus, it doesn’t matter that the LLM has access to it during your session to modify how it reacts to you. They don’t need the LLM at all to use that history.
This isn’t an “I’m out” type of change for privacy. If it is, you missed your stop when they started keeping a history.
Yeah, like they have the history already…
Were long due on some guillotine action.
This will never ever be used in a surveillance capacity by an administration that’s turning the country into a fascist hyper capitalist oligarchical hellscape. Definitely not. No way. It can’t happen here.
It reminds me of the kids in 1984 who turn their father in for being an enemy of the state
This will be useful to the user, but it won’t change privacy. Humans at OpenAI still have full access to your history, and this will only expand AI capabilities to tap into previous conversations. However, rogue and unlawful administrations will still seek to access that data regardless.
Imagine if someone writes a malicious extension and now with this, they will also have access to entire chat history.
Is not a bad feature, I find it interesting. The thing is that I doubt normal users would take care not puting sensitive information on it, that can profile them. Clearly there should be more campaigns on schools and even for citizens about being conscious of the information they share. That would absolutely change a lot of the shit we are living nowadays .
