• TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I am tired of the unspoken Western Big Tech apologia. TikTok OBJECTIVELY collects far lesser data than Big Tech apps and services, according to reports from 2 reputed data collection analysis companies. Moreover, the below assumes you have an account, which is not even needed to use TikTok, unlike Instagram or Snapchat.

    https://clario.co/blog/which-company-uses-most-data/ https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/insights/info-tech-companies-collecting-from-you

    One of the key important aspects of threat modelling for your desired privacy is the acceptance of facts instead of false nationalist opinions.

    Moreover, while TikTok collects basic data, it never forces you to login other than for commenting (for obvious reasons) and similarly personal things, unlike Instagram. If you open an IG link in web browser, you cannot replay the video second time, and if you scroll the account’s posted images and videos, you will not be able to flick through a second time.

    Unlike Tiktok, with Western platforms and services like Facebook, you give phone number, contact book, IMEI, location data, email, some name or pseudonym et al. With TikTok, none, because you do not need an account for it.

    Facebook/Instagram and major Western platforms’ data collection on a user is more than what TikTok does on a user, even if there is an account on both services. On top of this, TikTok does not have tracking pixels, ad networks, CDN and other methods of tracking on other websites, unlike Facebook ecosystem. This allows Facebook ecosystem to correlate, interlink and form data clusters on users and IP addresses. Remember how Facebook ecosystem disallows accountless access? Or how they C&D’d Barinsta developer Austin Huang, citing they dislike anonymous access to Instagram?

    Western platforms also inject malware in browser using domains like https://netseer-ipaddr-assoc.xy.fbcdn.net/, something TikTok does not do if you do not have an account.

    This is precisely what makes TikTok objectively so harmless without an account, and even with an account, relatively far less harmful. It does not mean TikTok does not collect data, but the difference is too wide. These are the facts, free of American nationalist propaganda.

    I do not even use TikTok.

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      TikTok OBJECTIVELY collects far lesser data than Big Tech apps and services

      This is not true for a number of reasons, first being that once the data gets sent to a Chinese server, it’s gone. It’s like a void. Those “data collections analysis” can speculate, but they truly have no idea what happens with that data. Another reason that TikTok is as bad as Instagram, is that they farmed all the data from the in-app browser. Every click, scroll, everything.

      You can argue that they have a different approach to data farming, and they do: they try and rope you in, trick you into giving them your data. But it’s demonstrable wrong to say that they collect less data. I wouldn’t say they collect more data than typical west social media platforms, but I think it’s disingenuous to say they’re somehow better.

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        once the data gets sent to a Chinese server, it’s gone. It’s like a void.

        This sounds insanely xenophobic and racist.

        Those “data collections analysis” can speculate, but they truly have no idea what happens with that data.

        The one doing speculation is you. Analysis is not speculation. Maybe check a dictionary.

        it’s demonstrable wrong to say that they collect less data.

        I wouldn’t say

        Facts or feelings. Choose one. You have not yet chosen facts.

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      I read through the first link you provided, it doesn’t align with your claim “TikTok OBJECTIVELY collects far lesser data than Big Tech apps and services.”

      We go section by section


      The companies collecting your face, voice & environment

      TikTok is worst here, collection all possible voice, face, environment data


      What can companies tell from image recognition?

      Again TikTok infer as much information as possible, worst among all listed.


      The later couple section did not mention tiktok, so I cannot compare it.

      Finally

      the 5 social media apps that know most about you

      TikTok ranked number 3 in among all the social media, above clubhouse and twitter, just below facebook and instagram.