• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    This is the kind of creature comfort inconvenience that will tank this administration’s popularity. Americans are fickle and will not accept this kind of disruption to their lives.

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      One can only hope, but knowing how fucking stupid my right-wing, sycophantic, fellow countrymen are I doubt much will change.

      Pretty sure everyone who voted against him already hates him though.

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        I’ve been feeling like there are quite a few parallels to the Brexit mess in this past election and this administration’s policies. It took a while for the reality of Brexit to evaporate away the magical thinking; I think it’s just a matter of time before the same happens here as the cost of living shoots up as a result of these tariffs.

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          Despite some similarities, the demographics in the US are just a completely different beast.

          Our Christians are insane. Fox News has poisoned the minds of potentially hundreds of millions of Americans. American exceptionalism and the lie of “the American dream” has irrevocably cooked the collective minds of essentially our entire population.

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          I’m going to hold onto the spark of your optimism until I can light my own; your perspective does help and I hadn’t considered it. Thank you /gen /pos

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            The only issue is, it took years for that reality to sink into the minds of the electorate in the UK, and in the meantime the UK’s economy suffered considerably.

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      More importantly, people who don’t pay attention to politics and didn’t realize that any of this had any consequences to their lives just suddenly felt it

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    This is going to be a rare case where a piece of consumer electronics is going to be quite a bit cheaper in Australia compared to the USA. Usually stuff costs more in Australia.

    The Switch is currently US$450 and will probably go up with tariffs. Meanwhile, it’s listed as AU$700 in Australia, which is AU$630 before tax (all advertised prices include tax), which is US$385.

    I imagine this is going to happen for a lot of devices. I’m an Aussie living in the USA and I never thought I’d see the day when buying stuff in Australia would be cheaper. Australia has better consumer protection too, around things like repairs/refunds due to major issues even outside the warranty period.

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      Regardless of price, Nintendo is a shit legacy company that is riding on the coattails of the 90’s.

      They never have games on steep discounts like their competitors, ensure emulations and artistic expressions are shut down immediately, and barely change shit to their flagship games such as Pokemon. They’re creatively stale and are blessed to have a rabid fan base who can’t see through it.

      I got a switch since my kid brought grades home, but that’s the last piece of electronic device I’ll ever buy from Nintendo. This is someone who has played back in its heyday the N64.

      People who ‘boycott’ and go back to buying what they boycotted because said company pushed out a halfass apology tweet deserve to lose their money.

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        You seem to be missing the point, the Nintendo Switch is handily the most popular game console in US gaming history. It has officially sold more units than the PS2.

        I’m sorry that you don’t appreciate the switch, it’s an amazing general purpose gaming console.

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          Switch is still behind PS2 and DS. Don’t think they’ll get that 3rd wind to get them across thr finish line for 1st place. Pandemic + AC releasing timing was a lightning in a bottle type of coincidence to help get the sales to the 150m mark.

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          It’s all right I wouldn’t say it’s groundbreaking. There are many portable computers including the steam deck that are far superior in terms of capability and openness.

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            Doesn’t think switch is groundbreaking. Proceeds to list handheld that wouldn’t exist without the Switch breaking that ground. lol

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              You’re going to need some evidence that that’s the case because my understanding is that Valve had been working on the steam deck for a while.

              Hell the steam deck isn’t even the first handheld gaming computer, and the switch came out after the first handhelds, so even if Valve were influenced by the existence of the switch (which they weren’t), we would have still got the steam deck via other mechanisms.

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          Everything I can find still puts the switch behind not only ps2 but also the DS. Any chance you got a link?

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        They’re definitely creatively stale, but they’re also undeniably good at what they do. They have by far the best selling console of the last generation, and are the only console company to consistently post healthy profits on their operation.

        Is it a bit naff that their next generation of games will almost certainly be yet another Zelda, yet another Mario, yet another Pokémon? Absolutely. But if their next Zelda game is yet another best-selling critically acclaimed success, who are we to say that they’ve got the wrong approach?

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      In Europe it’s €385+taxes (all advertised prices must include tax) which is $425+tax, with two (mandatory) years of warranty included in price

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          I’m sorry, i guess i took it as implied. I think that’s a fair assumption because what else could you mean by price gouging when all people have been talking about is the $90 games?

          If that’s not what you meant, then what did you mean?

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              I guess it is. But why pretend this is something new? Games have always been expensive. Ps1 games were between 40 and 60 dollars when they came out. That’s almost 110 dollars accounting for inflation on about 50 dollars then.

              The ps1 itself would cost almost 800 dollars today, accounting for inflation.

              Game prices haven’t really followed along with inflation. The 60 dollar game has been a thing since i was a child in the 90s.

              I agree that perhaps 80 dollars is a lot for a game, and maybe they should be priced lower than 1 quarter the cost of the console, but thats a different argument.

              What i am saying, again, is this is nothing new, and i think this outrage is symptomatic of “short-term memory loss”.

              I wish games were cheaper. But ragging on nintendo for charging less than they used to for n64 games (when accounting for inflation) and selling a console that plays ps5 games for less than a ps5. Is a bit strange. I also think the portability of the switch is something neither of the big 2 have. The playstation portal is half the cost of a ps5 and has to be on the same wifi as the ps5.

              I just dont see why people think this is so egregious.

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                Because it is egregious. Wow solved that for you. Write an essay somewhere else about how you love Nintendo so much.

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                  So after reading about how, when accou ting for inflation, games are actually cheaper today than they should be. Your whole counter is. “Hur dur, because no, dont write paragraphs, me not read more than 20 seconds. Hur dur” yeah good one…

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                  In fact. I dont care if you realise it or not. I dont need your validation. Im in my 30s. I’m nearly 40. i have been gaming since the sega master system. That’s fairly early doors for gaming. Its super early for console gaming. I know what i am talking about, i have been alive for long enough and paid for enough games to know what i am talking about.

                  The fact that you are just going to downvote me and offer absolutely nothing to counter my argument is enough for me to know you are EITHER too young to k ow about any of this, or being purposfully ignorant to jump on the rage wagon.

                  The fact you automatically think i am schilling for nintendo because my argument passively defends them (its actually an argument defending all game pricing) is just evidence of your immaturity.

                  Grow up, eh?

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    Yeah, bullshit. They’re just using tariffs to further increase the price.

    100 bucks cheaper in Japan than any other region? 90 dollar games that never go on sale?

    Get bent, Nintendo, I’ll stick to the steam deck and wait for emulation.

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      Someone doesn’t understand the full story. The Yen is weak. Super weak when compared to the US dollar. Hence the price difference for their country.

      Additionally, those special consoles will be soft region locked. Only JP accounts can be added to them and will display Japanese only if the game supports that language.

      Games never go on sale, what are you on about? We see Nintendo games go on sale frequently. Sorry they’re not the $5 dumpster trash that EA/Ubisoft shits out every year with their latest madden or CoD/Just Dance games riddled with bugs.

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        The Nordic prices are ridiculous though. It’s the equivalent of adding ~200 euro to the regular European price. I bet lots of people here are going to import from other EU countries

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          Power in Norway have said pre-orders have been “fantastisk bra”. So doesn’t seem the price bothers us.

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            Norway is richer on average though. Let’s see how sales go after the initial introduction

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          Nordic prices are high mostly because of Bergsala, the monopoly importer. Why let the scalpers profit when they could be the ones doing the scalping instead, eh?

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        They should absolutely be selling their NES games for $5 or less instead of the original prices innthe 90s lol

        Quit sucking corporate cock

        Snap out of it fanboy

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    ELI5 smuggling a Switch2 over the Mexico or Canadian border. Not that I would recommend that or anything. For science. And fanfic.

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      I think it’s just USA. Nowhere else has introduced new tariffs for stuff from Japan to my knowledge.

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    Everyone pissing themselves over Nintendo not putting the price in the Direct when the reason why was pretty obvious, I thought.

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    $442 Wait, new us price (since its built in china, for a Japanese company) is $1000

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    Did anyone check with reddit to see if THIS story would be allowed to use one of the classic angry face Luigi Mario Kart gifs in response or are they still scared of that one?

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    guess i will stick with this one🥲

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      I really wonder how big that demographic is. My impression is that most Republicans would be culturally turned off by Nintendo’s brand.

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    Dammm, the best part is everyone speculated that the price it’s at now was to predict and get ahead of tarrif pricing by already setting it higher. The fact that it’s not is scary.

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      The market wasn’t expecting the tariffs to be as insane as they were — which is why it crashed. They had been expecting 10% maximums, not minimums.

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      Well we knew the price didn’t include the tarrifs when we saw Europe get absolutely crazy high prices. Higher than the US and a lot higher if we take into account the dollar tanking right now.

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      I think the $450 USD was just keeping up with inflation.

      $300 in March 2017 when the switch originally launched is equivalent to almost $400 today ($392 and some change). S2 is launching at $450, if they were only expecting 15%-ish tariffs then maybe, but it should then be cheaper outside of the US if tariffs were the only reason.

      $80-90 games before tariffs sucks, but games have been $60 for as long as I can remember, and they’re only getting more expensive to make.

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        I would say it’s more that some studios are spending even more to make them, games don’t have to cost more to make as you can now make a lot more with a smaller team than you could 20 years ago.

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        God damn everyone has heard this stupid ass argument and it just makes you stupid to repeat it. Shut up.

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            Ahh so software can cross borders for free. Then presumably they can just rent a shed somewhere to write data to what ever storage media they use these days.

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        No, it’s one of the most expensive Nintendo consoles ever. Only beat by the NES and the SNES. Those released when prices were at all time highs for this stuff.

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    I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but

    I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.

    The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.

    Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.

    Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.

    That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.

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      As owner and early adopter of both - disagree.

      Switch is gathering dust for me and everytime I pull it out i feel like getting my steamdeck instead.

      The only exception I can think off is low profile traveling but that’s a very small niche if people.

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      I see a lot of people saying they shouldn’t be compared, but it still does make sense to do so as most can’t afford both.

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        And outside of coop couch, the switch pales in comparison on just about everything else.

        Game prices: higher

        Feel in hands? Awkward

        Removable controllers: pop off or loosen during solo gameplay causing everything to pause in order to fix it, which can, but isn’t always, be a quick easy fix.

        Plus, games like Animal Crossing that allow coop couch still demand individual switch consoles if you want the full experience for multiple people.

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          outside of coop couch

          Couch coop is pretty much the only reason we have a Switch. If it was just for me, I wouldn’t bother.

          As it stands, I have both: Steam Deck for me, Switch for family couch coop.

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        That’s a bit unnecessary. I’m just pointing out people are trying to compare two things that aren’t the same.

        By that logic though, I think Nintendo has a “dumb cock” for charging as much as they are for Switch 2, so I’m not really sure what it tastes like.

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      Yeah, people are bitching about first party titles never going down in price, meanwhile I’m here enjoying my 300Eur indie machine.

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      Also most of Nintendo’s target audience has no idea that the Steam Deck exists. Like if a kid asks their parents for a Switch 2 the parents aren’t going to suggest the Steam Deck since they don’t know what it is. Nintendo does a shit ton of traditional advertising, the Nintendo brand has an enormous mind share among the general audience. The mind share for Steam is almost non existent outside of PC gamers.

      And many kids I know who play PC games don’t even have Steam installed. Since they only play Roblox and Fortnite on their PC. Nintendo is not competing with the Steam Deck. Their real competition is Apple and Android because of Fortnite, Roblox and TikTok.