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Calm? It scares the ever-living shit out of me that I’m surrounded by these people every day. They drive next to me. They have power over me. It’s frightening.
I’m not saying this never happens, because it sure does, but something about this picture is off
The tire tracks make zero sense.
The car shadow also looks off compared to blue tent thing to the right. The car shadows appears lighter and shorter.
I stand corrected
We can get dumber
Guy looks exactly as I would’ve imagined him.
I can hear him saying, “of course it will be fine” with a tone that implies questioning the fineness was the stupidest thing he’s ever heard, because he thinks projecting confidence works for anything just like it works for tricking people that he knows things he really doesn’t.
And then there’s a good chance he acts like there was no way anyone could see the result coming once it’s clear that it isn’t, in fact, fine.
How American do you need to be to drive directly on the beach
Tbf, there are American beaches known for being drivable. Specifically, Daytona Beach.
Maybe it’s not a good idea to drive even on a drivable beach?
It’s kind of their whole thing though. It’s how NASCAR got started. Without it, it would kill a large part of their tourism.
You can just tell that dumb motherfucker is trying to explain what actually went wrong
That photo is somewhat disappointing due the the lack of a douchebag vanity plate.
Stupidity ages like a fine wine. Give it a couple of more years and you will be surprised about your ability to bend the concept of rational thinking.
“They’re watering crops with a sports drink?”
Don’t take it to the sea it’s not ambidextrous.
Heehee, yeah it doesn’t even have hands
I saw a fancy car a few years ago with an analog clock. That car had hands.
We can only hope there’s another billionaire on board
That was such a great spectacle
Just wait. That sea air is gonna do wonders for that
trucksbrick’s complexion.Maybe they could try this (before going on the beach)?
They should’ve used this
I want one to park it in my narrow one-way street that the municipality won’t close to traffic because they hate pedestrians!
In all seriousness track retrofits tend to do really poorly outside of snow.
You can get them on UTVs (side-by-sides). They also suck there, because if you try to reverse over something you can pretty much rip the track off
An argo, dollar for dollar, is the best thing to take into the bush.
This Argo? (was the first link in the
argo carsearch)
Sweet, looks like an all terrain golf cab
OK, in the end, I won’t install them on my Gen 2 Prius. Thanks for the tip!
baylife
What am I looking at? Should I conclude that Cybertruck is a bad off-road vehicle, or that sand is an unsuitable surface for driving, or both?
Mostly that the driver is an absolute muppet. Sand like that is so soft you sink to your ankles walking in it, the truck never stood a chance.
Please don’t denigrate the muppets like that. Muppets are cool. This guy is not.
Cookie!
Yes both
An F-150 weighs just over 4,000 pounds. A Cybertruck weighs nearly 7,000.
That’s a lot of weight pushing into the soft sand.
This isn’t true. Many higher trim F150s (bigger cab, 4wd, luxury interior) weigh over 6000lbs. Only the smallest, cheapest ones used for work vehicles are on the 4000lb range. Not defending the Cybertruck, but repeating false info doesn’t help.
The 2023 F150 King Ranch Super Crew has a curb weight of 4,912 pounds. The Cybertruck is nearly a ton heavier.
It’s not an unfair to explain that being heavy affects traction in the sand, and batteries weigh a freaking ton. In the case of the F150 Lightning, for instance, the battery is 1800 pounds, and it’s pretty close to the Tesla in weight.
Some of the trims listed here are 5800 lbs: https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/2023/models/f150-limited/
If you look at the f250, some are over 7500lbs: https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/models/f250-xlt/
Sure, if you intentionally try to make it as heavy as possible, it’s only a thousand pounds lighter.
Or you go for the F250 and reach into a completely different class of vehicle it can get heavier.
I bet a Navy destroyer weighs even more!
Side note: the King Ranch Super Crew sounds like a range of chicken burgers.
Only the smallest, cheapest ones used for work vehicles
So, the only cases where using F150 is even justified?
Maybe I’m misunderstanding what’s being said here, but it’s pretty surreal hearing someone explain how their pickup truck is too big to be useful as a work vehicle.
Most big trucks are big because they have more interior passenger room. They’re essentially vans/SUVs with a small, useless bed that’s purely for looks. Only smaller trucks have a bed of usable size.
repeating false info doesn’t help.
A tragedy of the greatest magnitude. How many of them have to be washed ashore until we do something?
Step-Elon I’m stuck!
It’s a design problem？
Yes. The problem is Elon Musk designed it.
Sort of. As I understand it, the main issues with the cyber truck’s offroading capability are its weight (it weighs a LOT more than even a large pickup due to being an EV) and the fact that you can’t replace the tires with something more suitable for your intended terrain.
In this case, I think the main issue is the weight on a very soft surface.
Yes. Design say vehicles allowed, but detruck get stuck.
Since no one else has said it, this isn’t a design flaw of the truck. The operator didn’t let air out of their tires. Before driving on sand you really want to let your tire PSI down to like 15 to be safe. I used to pull hummers out of the beach with my old four cylinder Nissan pickup because their drivers were often overconfident they didn’t need to deflate their tires (or just completely unaware). I don’t like Tesla but this is an operator error, not a fatal flaw of the truck.
This is definitely a Tesla flaw. Anyone dumb enough to buy one of these trucks is dumb enough to take it on the beach.
how? Or more specifically, what?
You attract the customers you advertise to, I guess.
i mean, i suppose so, but that’s not a flaw. That’s marketing.
Does that still apply to vehicles that weigh 6600+ lbs?
I towed several hummer v2s. Wiki says they are 6400 lbs stock.
They do fine when tires are deflated.
It’s more of the taking $150k truck that doesn’t like sand, salt, or water to the beach.
You aren’t wrong though
Or just don’t drive on sand that is so soft you sink to your ankles walking in it.
That’s handy to know, but I believe the implication is that the owner of the car in the photo is dumb for buying the car and then dumb for getting it stuck in sand.
I used to race cars, and would over/ under inflate my tires based on the weather and track conditions. Never thought about driving on sand, but that’s a super useful tip that I would wager most people have never heard.
Yeah it made me a lot of extra cash when I was in high school. I would park over the on-ramp for beach access and wait for a tourist to inevitably get stuck. Most of the time I wouldn’t ask for money but they’d give me a nice tip since they knew the only other option was to call a tow truck. The park service requires a permit to off road now, and that info is on the permit so fortunately for visitors it happens less often now.
It’s not just sand, rock crawlers will deflate tires down to single digits (that’s why they use beadlocks) so that the tires actually wrap around the rocks.
I guess you’re talking about psi.
(No offense to you, dear Buffaloaf, I just looked it up and thought I might share).
For everyone of the 191 non-USA countries, 10 psi is 0,69 bar or 690 hPa. That’s pretty low.
By the way, why is psi written in such a weird way? It should be lbs/ in^2
As an Aussie I’ve used metric for everything my whole life, but I’ve just realised that everything I’ve ever used to inflate stuff has been metered in PSI. I just know that ~30PSI is good for tyres, ~15PSI is good for soccer balls.
I wouldn’t know the conversions because there’s no use for it because that’s not what the pumps use. Weird.
Sorry, yeah I meant psi. And yeah, pressure units annoy the hell out of me too. There’s psi, kPa, Barr, Torr, atm, mmH20, in. Hg, and so on. It’s dumb.
Yeah same I was inflating all the bicycle tires of my family. On most of the tires it says inflate to x bar, but my electric pump only knows psi.
Because in^2 is generally said “square inches.”
So it’s “pounds per square inch.”
Sometimes “per” will get its own letter, like in PPM - parts per million - and sometimes it’s left off, as in PSI.
Thanks, friend :)
I know how it comes to be, I just think it’s stupid.
For example, kW times h is not the same as kW per hour. That’s why kWh means kilowatt times hour.
If I wrote ms to denote meters per second that would create massive confusion.
That is an excellent point. Yeah, PSI would totally read as pounds times square inches which would be something else entirely. Adding in the extra P would fix it, too. PPSI. Suppose it’s another thing that people just have to get used to, haha.
Eh, it’s pretty unambiguous. kW/hour is a pretty useless unit. Power surges may be measured in kW/s or something, but they don’t really have any impact over a span of more than a couple seconds.
Likewise, pounds times square inches is equivalent go kg*m3/s2 in SI units - which also seems pretty meaningless. Maybe there is a use for it?
What really grinds my gears is that pounds are a unit of mass, not force. The “pounds” in “pounds per square inch” is short for “pounds-force“. It’s the force of one pound of mass accelerating at 1g. Preposterous.
Wait wait Wait, can you give me more on this kWh thing? I thought I understood this already.
A single kW is a unit of power, literally 1000 watts.
A kWh is a unit of energy, as in stored or delivered. Draw 500 watts for 2 hours? That’s a kWh. Or have a battery that can hold 1 kWh, then assuming 100% efficiency you could draw 1000 watts from it for an hour before it was empty.
All of this is kW times hour, I would say? But in my mind I would interchangeably say per hour as well, they feel the same.
Obviously I’m wrong, but I’d like to know why lol
If you use exactly 20 kW for an hour, it will translate to 20 kWh. But if your power usage varies over time, you can’t keep track of it so simple. It’s just how it is.
The unit is really watt [W] and the Greek prefix kilo (k) for 1000. This way it’s fast and easy to convert to different scales (like Mega, Giga etc) for comparing numbers
A watt is a derived unit for a rate of change, an amount of energy used in a unit of time, so P = E / t. A kW per hour would be a rate divided by time, or E / t^2, resulting in another rate.
More colloquially, think of watts/power by analogy to another rate, that of speed. Moving at a speed of 100kph for 3 hours results in 300 speed-hours of distance. Saying 100 kilometers per hour per 3 hours sounds awkward, but is actually a weird way to say acceleration, a rate of change of speed. (And probably a hint to get your car serviced.)
Anyway, the key is to think of a kilowatt as a rate, not a quantity.
And why?
Because we said so.
Generally speaking you can hold in the valve for 60 seconds to let out enough air from your street pressure for off-road. It’s better to measure and you really want a 12v compressor to reinflate for the ride home but in a pinch…
