Looked at me funny
Politics.
Followers stake the moral upper ground and turn otherwise awful douchebags into martyrs.
Iraq accepting Euros for their oil.
because they’re mad at the person for being gay, trans, or a different race or religion than you.
There is no good reason to kill. Only bad excuses
Sounds like someone who’s never been in a self defense situation.
IRL when you are in a self defence situation, you are already laying on the floor bleeding profusely and/or knocked out, I’m talking from personal experience, most of the time you get sucker punched or/and jumped on or/and punched in the back of the head or/and assaulters have weapons, so unless you’re heavily trained, when self defence situation happens you’re not gonna protect yourself, as Mike Tyson said, everyone have a plan before they got punched in the mouth, so unless you can act on trained “instincts” you gonna get stomped on the head
I believe the point of their argument is killing is ok if your in a life or death self defense situation.
Whether you are actually able to defend yourself is irrelevant for that point to be true.
Oh you’re certainly correct. Self defense training should be mandatory IMO. Both with and without weapons.
My point was that a life or death situation changes the “there’s no good reason to kill” argument.
I have taken Mike’s advice into every fight I’ve been in. No amount of armchair training can prepare you for when your adrenaline really hits.
Absolutely this, however, doing drills and sparrings is necessary so your body know how to move without your mind, i mean, completely untrained people just flailing and doing haymakers while those who doing drills at least can throw some straights and jabs and clinch and double leg takedown and some throws, at least i can do this automatically without thinking
Some personal experience: I’ve trained a little, I’m not a professional fighter. All my very few fights have been street fights. I’ve been trained how to takedown but I can’t find enough thought to actually do it fight. The absolute best thinking I’ve ever done in a fight was remembering my boxing hits and even that was more of a flash than a rational thought. Honestly the thought “RUN!” comes up more often in a fight for me than anything actually useful to fight.
Yes) this! You train for exact that flash of memories when your body do the job without mind intact, body just by reflexes should act on self defence, because everyone’s mind screaming to run and muscles are becoming like jelly when time to fight comes, i mean every country trains their professional soldiers exactly for this, so their body would work/fight properly without mind intact
Luckily 100% of the people i know are in this situation and the society around me push the general idea that killing is always wrong no matter what. And it works.
Then yes, condition may change in third world countries
Sounds like an argument I wouldn’t win, no matter how valid arguments i present, so I won’t bother
But… but… someone is WRONG on the INTERNET… are you just gonna let that slide?
/s obviously
Why do you think I’m wrong?
I don’t. I was referring to the other guys willingness to simply not engage in a discussion stemming from disagreements. Not every opinion different from ones own requires a response. Not every discussion needs to be an argument.
Well thats rather defeatist. Also I wasn’t tryna start an argument breh. If you wanna have a conversation we can do that.
Well, the dumbest reason I’ve seen people get murder-y for is typically fighting over inheritance.
It’s like… now there’s even more inheritance to fight over. Then also you just paid for one funeral, and now you want to pay for another?
There will never be a dumbest reason to kill somebody. Humankind will always be inventing the next dumbest reason.
I’m trying to think of the dumbest one I’ve heard of, and there’s so many options I can’t quite pick one. So, this.
Driving drunk.
They diss your mom in a COD lobby. (Happened IRL)
We get in a fight at a tripple crossroads. He dies. Then I go back to his kingdom and marry his wife. Little did I know she was my mother and he was my father…
My favourites are killing refs for making bad calls, or killing other parents because their kid did something in a game
You could watch a documentary about serial killers or check current wars, it’s full or dumb reasons to kill other people.
Racism
The entire motivation of the bad guy in Madame Web is that he saw the heroes killing him in a dream so he wants to kill them first…
The only reason they want to kill him is because he keeps fucking attacking them…
That movie is so fucking stupid
The entire motivation of the bad guy in Madame Web is that he saw the heroes killing him in a dream so he wants to kill them first…
The only reason they want to kill him is because he keeps fucking attacking them…
That movie is so fucking stupid
I haven’t seen it, but that’s like, most Ancient Greek stories about prophecy. The only reason the prophecy comes true is that people take actions to prevent it.
For example, Oedipus’s parents find out he’s gonna kill his father and marry his mother. So when he’s an infant they nail his feet together and throw him out of the city. He’s taken in by some kind people, eventually makes his way back to the city later in life, kills his father in an altercation without knowing it’s his father, marries his mother not knowing she’s his mother. If his parents had never heard the prophecy and just, you know, raised him, he wouldn’t have done those things.
BUT THE PROPHECY DOESN’T EVEN COME TRUE!
That movie wasn’t like those ancient Greek stories because in quite a few ways but most notably the prophecy is just some guy believing that 3 teens are going to kill him. In the end… Madame Web kills him with a Pepsi sign! (Buy Pepsi! Drink Pepsi! PRAISE PEPSI!)
The movie does actively try to be like those ancient stories but it falls flat with even a slight amount of thinking about it because the villain’s motivations make no sense… Let’s break it down!
For the last 20ish years he’s had the same recurring nightmare about 3 teens showing up into his New York apartment, smashing some of his stuff, stealing from him and then throwing him out a window…
During that time every action he took seemed to recreate that dream? He moved to New York (he didn’t live there before), bought the apartment from his nightmare, bought all of the furniture from the nightmare, decorated it exactly the same, and then spent the rest of his time making sure that the 3 teenage girls he is afraid of have a reason to dislike him. This whole movie could’ve been prevented by… Moving to a different place… At any point in the last 20 years…
Unrelated to the story but also every single line from the villain is dubbed for some reason??? Every other character clearly sounds like they did the voice during the scene and then he sounds like he’s in a recording booth and they just slapped it on… ???
This turned into more of an essay/rant than I planned but holy fuck that movie was so bad. Funniest shit I’ve seen in so long and will watch it again. I’d never seen a superhero movie before where the main character’s super power includes hitting people with her car.
Revenge. How should killing a person make it better?
And war, some rich people profit, normal people die
Black Sabbath’s War Pigs jumped into my head reading this.
