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      How can you convince anyone to get off these ? Everyone I’ve showed lemmy to is terrified it’s a virus, and what chat platforms are there besides messenger that we can convince anyone to go to? Maybe I need smarter friends, lol.

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        That was the goal of big corporations and more simplification over time and less customization, went from webdev not seeming viable since every mf could make their own website and would to everyone being incompetent to the point they cant use websites and can only use the few popular apps.

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        It is a very big ask… For chat i moved to Signal and convinced my closest relatives and friends to humor me and get the app, but they didn’t let go of Whatsapp. It’s lonely but i enjoy the quietness, and do not miss the endless groups!

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        One of my phone browsers has warned me that one Lemmee instance is a scam, that doesn’t help if it is happening to others.

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        To be fair, Lemmy’s UI does it no favors; I can’t entirely blame your friends for thinking it looks sketch.

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        What you’re describing is intentional. Keeping people dumb about the tech they’re using while maintaining messaging like “Facebook works day and night to keep you safe” was the point all along so that people don’t understand what they’re doing. Granted that extends far beyond social media, but still

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          They don’t realize it’s the big shiny companies that are actually scamming them and stealing their data.

    • cally [he/they]@pawb.social
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      Out of those, the only one I use is Whatsapp… kinda hard to get away from it where I live, literally everyone I know in real life uses it

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          to you, the 9 other likers and the one disliker:

          I’d argue “under unregulated capitalism” and would love to hear how Im wrong here: When you buy an apple from a farmer in EU thats local to your small town, I’d say thats pretty ethical? Isnt it??!

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            Your example is fine. It’s not an option for most people to be able to source everything they need where the supply chain doesn’t rely on exploitation of labor and resource extraction somewhere along the process. Whether it’s in the materials used by the producer, the logistics in goods transport(oil & gas, shipping, warehousing, etc), or manufacturing of goods (labor, production house, etc…), the chain relies on exploitation somewhere along the way.

            Buying the apple from your local farmer still relies on the oil industry to run farm equipment or transit of the product. By and large this is minimize when buying local from independent producers. Those, however, are often more expensive.

            The consumer is the last step of exploitation. Where the profit stems from. Again, your local farmer probably isn’t extorting you, but your local grocery store probably is.

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                Sure regulate it then, effectively, and cut out any international trade which allows for the procurement of goods through a non-regulated system. Find a common agreement of what regulation is and find a way to ensure no one has an incentive to break that regulation. Find a way to ensure that a capitalist cannot accrue such wealth as to influence politics (or skirt whatever law you want against it).

                The only people I’ve heard who want NO regulation are AnCaps and yeah lol no - (and also they still want property rights ig).

                People just want a better system than what we have now. Which is laissez-faire capitalism. Beyond that there’s the political philosophical aspect that “capitalism” can and does effectively mean rule by the wealthiest.

                Lot’s of people would be happy with a market system in a socialist society. Lots of people want Anarchism. Lots of people want Communism(the good or bad kind depending on who you ask).

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                  Id just love to see more corporations being like Mondragon(spanish) in the top ranks (i.e. stock corpos) but I would not want governments specifically to gain ownership forcefully.

                  So I’d call it regulated capitalism - as you said, just not paleo libertarian laissez-faire as we clearly see how that doesnt work once all markets are established (and even the competition phase was, as we all should know, pretty questionable historically cough imperialism cough)

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        Really? I go out of my way to search on duckduckgo when looking for products and filtering out Amazon.

        Its been easy for me. My hatred of that man makes it worth the effort.

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        Could always pick up piracy. Hard to beat a 100% off coupon.

        Simply pick up uBlock Origin and browse some community-vetted streaming sites on FMHY. (Short for Free Media Heck Yeah, a site that showcases community-vetted sites.)

        That’s just streaming, no downloading. Simply find streams of whatever shows you’re invested in and binge as usual!

        I’ve even gone as far as taking old laptops of mine and having them full screen these sites on startup. Then, I simply hook the laptop up to my TV via HDMI, plug in a Bluetooth keyboard, and binge away!

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        That is the one that’s killing me too. I just received an email that my subscription date is coming up. I want to cancel, at least my soul really wants me to cancel. But my broken body, limited $$, and limited mobility makes me feel like it would be cutting of my nose. It is really difficult to get to, never mind around, local stores.

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          If it helps, one of main arguments of the antitrust lawsuit against Amazon that the Biden administration opened was that Amazon routinely, actually, costs you money because they use their platform to offer more expensive options in your searches first and other means: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/09/ftc-sues-amazon-illegally-maintaining-monopoly-power (I’m not sure if that link with detail or with a much clarity as wherever I first read it but I can’t recall where I originally read it 3 or so months ago, I’m afraid).

          The only major advantage that I’ll fully admit Prime has is speed of delivery; I admit I do use it when our cats run out of food and I dropped the ball on making sure we had more or I need filters for our air purifiers that just noted they need new ones.

          But, even if you can find cheaper versions on Amazon, it can become easy to fall for the setup of their site if you use it by default all the time.

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      That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard so far to get banned for.

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          Well yeah. It’s openly critical of the sexual function of people who have had those proceedures. The trans community as a whole are often depicted as mutilated and less functional by transphobes or people who want to devalue them as valid romantic options. Since access to those medical services are actively under fire that critique isn’t value neutral and it isn’t in the context of what unaltered sexual function is like for people with dysphoria whom often register a marked improvement in overall function from getting over the mental blocks.

          The people I know who have had surgeries have been quite happy with the outcome. While it’s true the surgery options regarding bottom surgery for trans men require one to make some decisions about what functions to focus on, framing them as ugly and “barely functional” is insulting. Think about what it would be like to hear someone else critique the choices you’ve made that have improved your life experiences in a way that frames you as deficient and devalued.

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              And in your second paragraph, see how you had to add ugly to my statement to make it malicious and false, that is you projecting onto me, not me

              Ah so “barely even cosmetically complete” doesn’t register as you calling them aesthetically displeasing? Fuck off.

              The framing as it being a personal choice not to pursue those options are the thinnest veneer of setting yourself up for this reaction to be shocked and appalled that someone would call you out. Even if you were trans yourself framing it the way you did before would register as you being an ass to other people in your community.

              Troll behavior.

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                  Ah yes, “just stating your opinions” “echo chambers” and the calls that you are being oppressed and policed, that I am both a narcissist and a weak little trans weenie who needs to shut themselves away where I can’t hear your big strong ideas.

                  It’s the full right wing bingo card. Do you lot ever get tired of clutching those pearls?

                  Don’t answer I know you will die with those things in a death grip.

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                He is a good disingenuous troll.

                People who undergo affirmation surgery are told all those facts before hand. This person doesn’t know the process.

                I have a trans Best friend and asked if they just wanted to live as a gay man BECAUSE of the above facts. Thier response was " I want to live as a woman." Living a certain way is more important to some then others.

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          I think arguing about medical techniques is boring, so let’s talk about empathy. You said you wouldn’t get the surgery if you were so inclined. I don’t think you’ve bothered to understand what being so inclined means. I don’t think you’ve considered being so triggered by a part of your body that you’d rather die than keep it. That’s what the situation is for a lot of trans people. I don’t think you’ve thought about that. I think you’ve imagined transition as a nice-to-have, instead of lifesaving medical care. You should do more to understand the feelings of trans people who seek surgery.

          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8099405/

          The regret rate is 1%. In the context of major surgery, that’s a miracle. You don’t get that for hip replacements or heart transplants.

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              None of your business, frankly. Those are our genitals and we’re human beings not medical curiosities.

              Asking us to defend publicly that our genitals are “good enough” by deep diving into the details of how a very complex and advanced surgery is done is utterly dehumanizing behavior. Anyway, I’ve literally never had a man say he felt there was something off with my genitalia and that’s including men who I never disclosed to & later asked me about pregnancy risks (implying they still believed I was cis). So this person is utterly misinformed and frankly speaking out of his ass.

              Don’t ask again. Be kind and respect people’s privacy when the topic is about their genitalia. Thanks.

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    Well, a few hours ago, I got permanently banned from Reddit, again, but this time with no explanation messages, or any recourse.

    I suspect it was from my contant mocking of Musk and Trump, and the GOP in general.

    Fuck them.

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    When Twitter-man did the salute, I deleted my old account (hadn’t used it in years anyway) When Facebook-man said “no more fact checking,” I deleted my old facebook (only kept it to keep in contact with, like, 2 people) When Tumblr-man banned the porn, I deleted my tumblr (you can guess why I had it) When Reddit-man said he wants to paywall the biggest subs, I deleted my reddit (also got banned but I prefer to say I did it for a better reason)

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      I’ve seen news that tumblr has changed/is changing, and they’re even implementing some form of activitypub (Fediverse) integration. I don’t have stakes here, just curious: does that change your position any, as an ex-user now on fedi?

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    Things i have stopped using- X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Coca Cola, Pepsi, Lays, McDonalds, Burger King, Netflix, Walmart. Things where i have minimized consumption - Amazon, Best Buy, Steam, YouTube. Things where I am tied in and can’t make a difference- Android, Windows, AWS, Gmail, Intel/AMD, MS Office (official productivity tools). Actually i don’t mind going minimalistic to F over US companies.

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      I agree with all the Linux comments but another thing you could do is use FOSS self-hostable front-ends to those proprietary services like invidious and newpipe (android) for youtube, redlib for reddit, nitter for twitter etc. You don’t have to host them yourself, there’s already plenty of people hosting their own instances.

      Aside from removing ads which you can already do with an adblocker (which takes 1 revenue stream away from them) it lets you browse privately without any data collection which would be sold to advertisers (taking away their 2nd revenue stream).

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        About the Android, he can replace it with GrapheneOS if he got almost any Pixel device

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          But then you’re buying the phone from google, which is not great if you’re trying to boycott google.

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      I haven’t gone that far, but I refuse to use Facebook, or Amazon.

      Facebook, because it’s a shithole of ignorance, stupidity, and cruelty, and it brainwashes older people.

      Amazon, because they hurt local Mom and Pop businesses, and I don’t like the way they treat the warehouse workers.

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      i use gmail but i use thunderbird to check it . working on a new address. if your using Windows consider running something like OOshutup10+ to stop M$ spying. we use LibreOffice at work except the one office lady can’t use anything but excel . Linux on my home pc’s , wish we could at work… Good job on the stopping , i’m currently doing the same. F the US.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    you are not supporting it. you ARE the problem. dont blame the tech or deranged illusionists like elon. it is the people. and while everyone is high horsing like mad at reddit/twitter etc. you still cant speak out that google, meta, apple and microsoft are exactly the same shit.

    YOU are an insult on humanity if you use those. and everytime it takes ages for imbeciles to move. “nooo, eVeRyyBoo0dy uSes wHats App. i nEEd t0 be oN th3re.” no, you are a POS for using whatsapp, twitter, meta, reddit or an iPhone. …and the crying starts.

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    Arguably there is now more censorship on Reddit than on twitter.

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    The same can also be said about Fiat currency and really supporting anything centralized as we need to balance power with some decentralization to keep it in check, but so few seem to care.

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      I’m only here because I saw it posted on Reddit over the years. Keep doing it, it’s working…