• atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    This is already a copyright apocalypse though isn’t it? If there is nothing wrong with this then where is the line? Is it okay for Disney to make a movie using an AI trained on some poor sap on Deviant Art’s work? This feels like copyright laundering. I fail to see how we aren’t just handing the keys of human creativity to only those with the ability to afford a server farm and teams of lawyers.

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      4 days ago

      I personally think copyright should be abolished, but for that to be actually effective and fair and just, copyright must be totally abolished everywhere in the world at the same time. Either everyone has copyright or no one has.

      Why? Inconsistent copyright laws would allow regions with copyright laws to exploit regions that don’t. Regions without copyright law would be sanctioned by regions with copyright (as it already happens). It’d lead to massive trade and cultural exchange problems. People on both sides couldn’t trust the copyright status either way on international contexts.

      And I think the whole AI copyright debate is a microcosm of that. The law isn’t clearly established, and AI companies argue copyright should not apply, while insisting copyright actually should apply to other stuff they’re making. When the AI companies are arguing they should be able to jack copyrighted works for AI training, they’re not fighting for universal copyright abolition, they’re exploiting the unclear situation and power imbalance in their favour. This is why you can’t take small steps towards copyright abolition, it has to be all or nothing.

    • MimicJar@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      I would agree the cats out of the bag, so there may not be anything that can be done. The keys aren’t going to those who can afford a server farm, the door is wide open for anyone with a computer.

      The interesting follow up to this is what Disney does to a model trained on their films. Sure lawyers, but how much will they actually be able to do?