• BoisZoi@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    /r/Piracy is just a bunch of memes, and this community actively talks about piracy, it’s ethical philosophy and taking control over your media. There are people who pirate everything regardless of circumstances, but for the most part, I’d argue its people who have been burnt by companies whom they trusted.

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      8 months ago

      /r/piracy is just a bunch of memes

      Because otherwise it would get instantly banned. You don’t host piracy communities on social media, it’s well known

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      8 months ago

      I disagree that it actually talks about it. Basically either you join the echo chamber saying that there are no ethical problems with piracy, or you’re downvoted to oblivion. That makes the discussion redundant and uninteresting.

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        8 months ago

        because the flipside is companies wanting to nickel and dime you to oblivion for a subpar piece of media, or even hardware these days.

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          8 months ago

          We’re talking about whether the community has a nuanced discussion about the ethics of piracy or not. What you said just now is another attempt at a false dichotomy, so if you’re trying to represent the community you’re kind of proving my point.

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            8 months ago

            im presenting you with a simple, common but strong argument for it.

            you can choose to engage with it with nuance or, apparently, attack me.

            you won’t agree with every set of ideals out there, that doesn’t mean it isnt tought out.

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              Your argument is not relevant to anything I said. So I don’t want to engage with it because it derails the discussion here, which is not about the ethics of piracy but about the community’s openness to discussing it.

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                8 months ago

                yes it is. you just dont want to have that discussion.

                the community will rightfully shun people parroting the copyrights holders arguments and bad faith arguing, because thats not the place to be if you hate piracy.

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                  8 months ago

                  They can do whatever they want, it’s their community. Just don’t tell me there’s a nuanced discussion going on there.

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        8 months ago

        Piracy is good actually; the only people who disagree are squares who will never own capital of their own, and actual capitalist leeches

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        Yep. I got wrecked trying to discuss the nuanced differences between piracy and theft.

        Decided then and there to just block all discussions/communities on the topic. If they can’t leave the wind-tunnel, they can keep it to themselves.

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          8 months ago

          Some people have to jump through a lot of moral hoops to justify piracy instead of accepting there could be any possible bad points about it

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      8 months ago

      Idk if it’s still there, but devs of lemmy mentioned wanting to make a place you could actually talk about piracy. I buy things when I can DRM free, and when I can’t I’m really glad this community exists