• BabaDuda@lemmy.ml
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    That bit at the start about addressing the people who want to see them fail… ehhh

    I mean, people who actively want to see you fail just because shouldn’t really be engaged with at all tbfh, and if he’s referrring to who I think he’s referring to, then bleah

    Otherwise at least they’re back, let’s see how they improve

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        Apparently the guy from Gamers Network is just a hater, and him bringing up all this stuff that they have to “introspect” over was just him being a dick. I mean, the fans figured he was right enough to throw a shitfit, but he should know better than to criticize Linus. After all, Linux is infallible except when he’s not.

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    Sounds convincing, however businesses don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. For me to trust and support this content again, the investigation of the allegations needs to produce conclusive evidence. The whole quality drama passed to the background after Madison showed up what really went inside LMG

    Either LMG admits wrongdoing and dishes out consequences to those involved, or they present verifiable and damning evidence showing no abuse occurred. Unlike bootlickers at reddit and ltt forums, I don’t side with businesses against people. If you live in this world and not in your mom’s basement you’d understand why.

    If LMG comes out with “we found nothing,” “no conclusions could be made,” or something along those lines without evidence, then fuck them. Not good enough.

    I vote with my wallet (and time), and I won’t deal with more corpo BS while abusing emplpyees. Before any smartasses come here with the usual “you live in society” crap. Yeah I can’t go live in the woods like a hermit to be morally right, but I can sure as hell drop a shit tech yt channel.

    EDIT: taking another look, the second half of the video was more defensive nonsense. Basically claiming they aren’t a twitter sweatshop, they are the victims, and some heavily edited parking loot footage as “proof”

    And the turnover rate is at best a shaky argument, One can argue since it’s mostly guys, they’re not gonna be at the same situation to be bullied, insulted and sexually harassed until leaving. It doesn’t seem the culture will be fixed anytime soon, so I’m just gonna stop wasting more time with it.

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      The burden of proof works the exact opposite way. You make a claim, then you need to support verifiable and damnable evidence. Not the other way around.

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        This isn’t a court trial tbh, and what has come forth from Madison’s side (testimonies, recording, consistency) is more than enough for me to put the ball entirely on LMG’s side.

        No reason to keep giving businesses the benefit of the doubt when in many cases they have every advantage over the situation.

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          This isn’t a court trial tbh

          So just because it’s not a court trial means we should throw out innocent until proven guilty? The burden of proof is non-negotiable. These ideas have existed for centuries, they aren’t a purely legal framework.

          what has come forth from Madison’s side

          Which is, to be perfectly fair, limited to he-said-she-said which isn’t evidence. It’s just an allegation and very little can be decided from that alone.

          At this point there is exactly zero useful information to actually derive any real decision from.

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            So just because it’s not a court trial means we should throw out innocent until proven guilty? The burden of proof is non-negotiable. These ideas have existed for centuries, they aren’t a purely legal framework.

            I’m under no obligation to give LMG the benefit of the doubt, if I choose to abstain from watching their content due to the allegations, then that is my prerogative. My choosing to make a decision without proof either way doesn’t harm LMG further than the loss of ad revenue, etc.

            That’s the difference.

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    A simple “we can’t talk about the Madison situation right now, but we will later.” would have made this video 10x better.

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      “Mr. Sebastien, in your video from August 26, 2023 marked as exhibit 23B you referred to “the Madison situation”. Can you explain what you meant by ‘situation’?”

      You may not like it but when there’s credible accusations of harassment, constructive dismissal, and possibly up to battery you do not make public statements of any kind beyond, “We are investigating and taking the accusations seriously”, which in case you missed it the CEO of LMG already did a week ago.