Why do you find yourself opting for btop or htop instead of top? What advantages do these tools offer that make them superior to top in your opinion?

top has served me well, so I’m unsure why I would want to burden my system with the addition of htop or btop. With top, if you wish to terminate a process, simply press ‘k’ and send the signal; it’s that simple. If you’d like to identify the origin of a process, just include the command column.

I often find myself intrigued when encountering comments on posts expressing love for htop/btop. To me, it appears unnecessary or BLOATED!! Please do share your perspectives and help broaden my Linux knowledgebase.

  • waigl@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    btop for bling

    htop for practical utility

    top for minimalism, availability, reliability

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    10 months ago

    I like htop because it has nice CPU graphs and a good tui for navigating. Top is a bit too obtuse for a new user, especially since CPU time is measured per core and not per the entire CPU. Plus I never figured out how turbo boost plays a roll in those percents.

    I haven’t gotten around to messing with btop, but it seems like more of what I like.

    Also fuck the “muh bloat” people. I have an i9 and 32 gigs of ram. I don’t care that a monitor util takes 1/10th of a second longer to launch and uses 1MB more of ram.

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      Also fuck the “muh bloat” people. I have an i9 and 32 gigs of ram. I don’t care that a monitor util takes 1/10th of a second longer to launch and uses 1MB more of ram.

      Maybe you only use those tools on your desktop but on a cloud server with only 1-2GB of RAM you really don’t want your monitoring to take up some significant percentage of that. Especially when you are debugging things like OOM conditions already.

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        10 months ago
        1. Why are you using top instead of ps if you’re worried about memory?

        2. Containerise it, and you can debug locally

        3. It’s not what the person you’re replying to is talking about. You’re using a slightly better tool for a specific job, they’re talking about people who won’t use htop/btop on their own machine because BLOAT.

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        10 months ago

        If I was that memory- and cpu-constrained I would be using other tools such as memstat, iostat, and cpustat.

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        10 months ago

        you really don’t want your monitoring to take up some significant percentage of that

        except it doesn’t - both htop and btop use <30 MB

        and if 20MB makes a difference, you don’t need a different top, you need a different machine

        “bloat bad” people are just obnoxious

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    10 months ago

    htop because it’s much more user-friendly than top, has the feature of sending all kinds of signals to processes, has mouse support and it generally looks good. Not a fan of btop at all. Idk how to use it and I don’t like the UI. I personally love the idea of no bloat. It’s just such a nice little philosophy. Sometimes I even want to use a CLI only computer tbh. Though htop weights only a few kilobytes and it has features top doesn’t have so I don’t consider it bloat. I had it on my server as well

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, I can understand RAM use in htop, but not in top

      Also, the Tree View makes it easy to see which part of <insert name of application> has become a zombie, etc.

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      To be honest, I really prefer btop’s sleek UI. It looks so modern and advanced. But with all its beauty and abundance of information, it can be overwhelming at times or in another words, bloattt. That’s why I personally lean towards htop’s text-based interface, which I find highly customizable to my preferences. Plus, htop offers more features and conveniences than top, making it my go-to choice for now.

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      10 months ago

      Uh, temperatures, that’s nice.

      I’d really like one of these to include GPU stats (I know, there’s nvtop or whatever it’s called), GUI apps can do it (Mission Center and a KDE system monitor widget), but I’ve not seen a CLI program include that …

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      10 months ago

      Been a htop guy my whole Linux journey and recently started using btop. I am yet to call my judgement but yeah I feel the same

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    10 months ago

    I like btop. It’s pretty. I just use it for checking resource usage, I rarely have the need to kill a process or anything else one may do with a system monitor.

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    10 months ago

    Htop what I use cause it’s what I’ve been using. Only really use it to see what process is taking the most CPU usage or RAM usage. System monitors in general though are mostly useless imo

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    Htop is completly customizable for how the sections of data are displayed. it is a bit convoluted the first time you start, but then it makes