Ex-muslim here. Islam does many shitty things, but it absolutely doesn’t fucking promote or even allow rape. In fact it calls for rapists to be stoned to death. And Hinduism doesn’t promote or allow rapes either. Stop spreading utter bullshit.
I am the kind of exmuslim atheist that sees all religion equally, and tolerates faith as long as it isn’t used to justify racism/sexism/homophobia or any other kinds of bigotry and hates hypocrites who cry “my religion good other religion bad”
“Your wives are like farmland for you,1 so approach them consensually as you please. 2 And send forth something good for yourselves.3 Be mindful of Allah, and know that you will meet Him. And give good news to the believers.”
Keyword: consensually: With permission. Without resistance.
And yes, it did allow pedophilia (which is rape yes, since children can’t consent) and raping war captives, as I said it did lot of bullshit, I am not defending it. But it didn’t allow just going out raping everyone as you implied. And also permitted != encouraged.
And what’s your evidence for claiming Hinduism allowing rape? It doesn’t as far as I know. You didn’t even bother providing a source for it.
I am pretty sure they’re used as brackets not quotes. Quran is quite ambiguous sometimes, so maybe it was used for clarifying, I am not sure. I don’t read Arabic. May be it did allow marital rape (honestly wouldn’t be surprised), but my point still stands that it doesn’t allow all forms of rape, like you are implying. And again, permitted != encouraged. The point also stands for Hinduism. Yes, it apparently allows wife beating and marital rape and (I stand corrected, thanks for that I guess), but still it doesn’t allow you to go out and rape anyone you see on the street. Let me be clear, I am not defending them for allowing these. I am just pissed at your implications that this two and only this two allows all kinds of rape while others doesn’t. Many things true about Islam is also true about Christianity as well. You ain’t complaining about that? I wonder why? Maybe because you’re trying to make other religions look bad while undermining the atrocities of your religion? If you were a atheist too you’d have criticised it as well surely. And that’s the thing me angry, hypocrites trying to make other religions look bad while often following an equally shitty one.
Well you coming from Islam doesn’t make you not being able to adopt another religion later. Also I’ve seen many idiots larping as muslims online, so yeah. Anyway, whatever. I’d suggest stop trying to direct criticism to selective religions and criticise unethical actions themselves instead. There are like 5 gazillion religions in India, you can’t just blame any particular religion for some random rapes. Not all follow their religion equally either. Some dipshits more than willing to rape people if theirs allow it, some simply assume it’s not allowed in the first place. Accusing all followers of a particular religion for some of it’s followers crime is disgusting generalisation.
Any religion where rape and pedophilia is permitted is disgusting and wrong, and deserves no defense what so ever. What is wrong with you? Finding the difference between permitted and encouraged is disgusting.
I am not defending rape and pedophilia. They are wrong, there’s no denying that. I am not denying that. I am just saying not everyone that follows those religions are rapists or pedophiles. The distinction is encourage would mean people have certain obligation to do it. You you follow this religion, you must rape. While permit, is bad as well, but you do not have the obligation and can choose not to. And many not only does, but often doesn’t even know that it’s permitted in the first place as they’re moral is shaped also by the modern outlook of things, at least to certain extent. On the hindsight, yeah it does look like I am trying to defend pedophiles and rapists, but I am not. Any religion that permits them is bad. But just a little less bad than “you should rape them”. In a perfect world, no one would follow these shitty religions, but unfortunately it’s not a perfect world.
One thing we can do to make the world less shitty, is calling out these outdated and awful systems. Stop clinging onto books written 2000 years ago, and instead believe in your fellow humans. We can make that change going forward, and you defending religions does not help at all.
i come from a muslim family so gtfo with your baseless assumptions
Why do Judeo-Christian religions hate women?
Ex-muslim here. Islam does many shitty things, but it absolutely doesn’t fucking promote or even allow rape. In fact it calls for rapists to be stoned to death. And Hinduism doesn’t promote or allow rapes either. Stop spreading utter bullshit.
stfu what kind of atheist exmuslim you are it absolutely does
see this as well
a lot of taqiyyah happening on this website
I am the kind of exmuslim atheist that sees all religion equally, and tolerates faith as long as it isn’t used to justify racism/sexism/homophobia or any other kinds of bigotry and hates hypocrites who cry “my religion good other religion bad”
The first link says marital rape is allowed on the basis of Q2:223. But from https://quran.com/al-baqarah/223,
Keyword: consensually: With permission. Without resistance.
And yes, it did allow pedophilia (which is rape yes, since children can’t consent) and raping war captives, as I said it did lot of bullshit, I am not defending it. But it didn’t allow just going out raping everyone as you implied. And also permitted != encouraged.
And what’s your evidence for claiming Hinduism allowing rape? It doesn’t as far as I know. You didn’t even bother providing a source for it.
consensually is added by the authors it is not part of the quran hence they put the ˹ ˺
I am pretty sure they’re used as brackets not quotes. Quran is quite ambiguous sometimes, so maybe it was used for clarifying, I am not sure. I don’t read Arabic. May be it did allow marital rape (honestly wouldn’t be surprised), but my point still stands that it doesn’t allow all forms of rape, like you are implying. And again, permitted != encouraged. The point also stands for Hinduism. Yes, it apparently allows wife beating and marital rape and (I stand corrected, thanks for that I guess), but still it doesn’t allow you to go out and rape anyone you see on the street. Let me be clear, I am not defending them for allowing these. I am just pissed at your implications that this two and only this two allows all kinds of rape while others doesn’t. Many things true about Islam is also true about Christianity as well. You ain’t complaining about that? I wonder why? Maybe because you’re trying to make other religions look bad while undermining the atrocities of your religion? If you were a atheist too you’d have criticised it as well surely. And that’s the thing me angry, hypocrites trying to make other religions look bad while often following an equally shitty one.
are you obtuse? i just said i come from a muslim family , let me say this directly , i am not christian
Well you coming from Islam doesn’t make you not being able to adopt another religion later. Also I’ve seen many idiots larping as muslims online, so yeah. Anyway, whatever. I’d suggest stop trying to direct criticism to selective religions and criticise unethical actions themselves instead. There are like 5 gazillion religions in India, you can’t just blame any particular religion for some random rapes. Not all follow their religion equally either. Some dipshits more than willing to rape people if theirs allow it, some simply assume it’s not allowed in the first place. Accusing all followers of a particular religion for some of it’s followers crime is disgusting generalisation.
i am not a hindu go ask here
Any religion where rape and pedophilia is permitted is disgusting and wrong, and deserves no defense what so ever. What is wrong with you? Finding the difference between permitted and encouraged is disgusting.
I am not defending rape and pedophilia. They are wrong, there’s no denying that. I am not denying that. I am just saying not everyone that follows those religions are rapists or pedophiles. The distinction is encourage would mean people have certain obligation to do it. You you follow this religion, you must rape. While permit, is bad as well, but you do not have the obligation and can choose not to. And many not only does, but often doesn’t even know that it’s permitted in the first place as they’re moral is shaped also by the modern outlook of things, at least to certain extent. On the hindsight, yeah it does look like I am trying to defend pedophiles and rapists, but I am not. Any religion that permits them is bad. But just a little less bad than “you should rape them”. In a perfect world, no one would follow these shitty religions, but unfortunately it’s not a perfect world.
One thing we can do to make the world less shitty, is calling out these outdated and awful systems. Stop clinging onto books written 2000 years ago, and instead believe in your fellow humans. We can make that change going forward, and you defending religions does not help at all.
agreed