Emulator devs should rly do their best to be anonymous
This shouldn’t need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.
Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn’t really “enough” in the face of even rudimentary protections.
The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)
In this case, they’ll be fine. They made a LLC and didn’t take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.
Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.
Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use
IANAL, but there are a bunch of carve outs for these purposes.
It’s unclear how this would have actually shaken out, but probably just because Nintendo is Nintendo, it would have gone in their favor. And yuzu didn’t want to be the one to set bad precedent for any future endeavors.
Before I could afford a PC good enough to run TotK :(
Nintendo screwed big time. Now there’s going to be multiple forks of Yuzu all over the internet. And on every self-hosted Git forge.
I tried to fork but couldn’t find a repo to clone. Do you have a link?
It’s all over Codeberg. And within a few hours or days, I guess it will reach NotABug too.
The bigger deal is that development by this team has been halted, not that it will be a little harder to find a trustworthy download of the most recent version.
Yep. This is more to stop the emulation of their next console than anything else. Especially considering it’s likely to be a just slightly better Switch.
Honestly, I’ll think more than twice before buying that thing if it really just is a Switch refresh. Not even taking into account the fact that whether it’s Yuzu or not, it’ll probably be supported by a Switch emulator in a comically short time after coming out. I’m still waiting for some insider leaks ten years from now revealing the Switch was indeed just some rebranded gaming tablet. Too many half-assed features, both on the firmware/OS side of things, but also the controller connectivity and drifting. It’s their worst console up to now. But damn, are their games fun.
That’s only temporary tho. One fork will emerge as the replacement everyone goes to, including the developers who were only working on Yuzu and Citra as volunteers. We know what Nintendo was sueing over, so that can probably be avoided in that fork.
Already mirrored on my personal forge
Pony up that 2.4mil bucko
Fuck no
Holy shit this thing smells so bad. The announcement reads like “Nintendo’s legal team wrote this in exchange for 1 mill smaller settlement”
fuck Nintendo, I’ll never support them or buy anything related to them ever again.
I feel like the people saying this now aren’t going to follow through and will buy future Nintendo products. If this behavior was a deal breaker for you then you would already be boycotting Nintendo.
Well, given that the last game I officially bought by Nintendo was Metroid Prime Dread (because I really really want that franchise to regain its former glory, same with F-Zero) and that also after a year or so of not buying anything new. Yeah I was kinda in a soft boycott already.
Last thing i bought was BoTW. Guess whos playing ToTK on their linux pc.
So in other words you were already boycotting them, and nothing has changed due to this lawsuit.
We’ll now im actively pirating. I haven’t had much time for their IP before.
Depends on the person really. I’ve been a sailor all my life, and the only times I’ve bought games was when I bought some physical disc games for my ps4, so it really depends on the person.
@theshatterstone54 @Fizz I’ve bought a physical copy of every switch game I’ve ever played on Yuzu on my Steam Deck… It was just nice having to only carry one portable about, and a superior overall gaming experience. I’ll never do business with Nintendo again over this…
@theshatterstone54
Those assholes…
@Fizz
I am
Is this… surprising behavior on Nintendo’s part?
No, and it’s still disgusting. They are fricking bullies.
Yet people keep buying their outdated console and paying for Nintendo online with terrible service.
Because people think that Nintendo deserves that money and pirating is unfair and wrong. In a vacuum, they do make good games that are worth the money but with all the shit they’re pulling, they’re basically abusing the law and their power as a huge company to force people to do what they want. That’s why, in my eyes, it’s only fair to pirate their stuff. If they’re gonna play unfair, so am I. There’s a huge chunk of people who aren’t that well informed on what Nintendo’s doing and why it’s wrong, who don’t want to do something illegal or who just want the convenience tho.
That escalated quickly.
Where does a FOSS project find $2.4M? They weren’t selling anything were they? They can’t really have that big of a war chest can they?
They had a Patreon so maybe that?
@bionicjoey @sirsquid They’ve had a lot of patreon money being funnelled in for years now…
They don’t have it. It’s a limited liability company so in this way they will pay only the sum of their assets (=bankruptcy) which is lower than legal expenses against a Goliath and definitely lower than 2.4 million. I’m guessing 1000x lower than the settled amount or they wouldn’t have reason to found the LLC in first place or to settle this easy and this fast
Did they just create the LLC after the lawsuit?
It seems like incorporated in Rhode island around the time Nintendo sued Gary Bowser for the switch modchip
My understanding is they’ve been making 30k a month from their Patreon.
Which is also the main reason they were vulnerable to a lawsuit, because they’ve been profiting off of the emulator (which why legal by itself, is only popular enough to make money due to piracy).
$2.4M is 8 years’ worth in that case, assuming they were making that much the entire time. And of course a lot of that money was probably for the devs to afford basic living expenses.
6 years and 8 months, but yeah I can’t see them having the money, even if they saved everything.
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Is this your first time venturing on to Patreon? The YouTube channel cold ones makes $84k a month from Patreon and they just get drunk, smash shit, and play video games.
The most recent version of Yuzu (which theoretically has the best performance) is semi-locked behind their Patreon.
This was especially important when TotK came out, because they were making a bunch of tweaks to improve performance for that game. So people who wanted to play TotK needed to subscribe to get the best results (or build from source, I’m assuming).
Can’t they just file for bankruptcy or something like that and not really pay the money? I think it isn’t about the cash, but just shutting the project down
Fuck Nintendo. All my homies hate Nintendo.
What happened to the lawsuit that said that emulation is legal?
Should’ve done a GoFundMe or something to fight Nintendo, I would’ve funded that…
As of right now, both Citra and Yuzu are available via Flathub!!! Get them now if you don’t have it!!!
How do I turn off Yuzu’s auto-update? I don’t want my computer to connect to a website that Nintendo now owns every time I boot up the emulator.
You should be fine. Yuzu checks the Github repo for updates which is now down. If you’re still worried you could download it via Flathub and disable network access via Flatseal or terminal.
Thanks!
I have the opposite question. How do I make sure that Nintendo knows every time I run yuzu?
Anyone got the windows installer?
Lots of people have already forked it. I think it’s even backed up on the Internet Archive too. You could also check the Yuzu subreddit as well.
doesn’t look like there’s download links anymore
The publicity inspired me to install it, so great job Nintendo.
I’ve owned a switch for like 8 years and suddenly I’m inspired as well…
Is there an updated resource on how to?
Here’s the guide I followed:
https://overkill.wtf/how-to-setup-yuzu-for-steam-deck/
And yuzu was still in the Discover store available to download as of this afternoon.
Ah, the good ol’ Streisand effect
They’re shutting down the website too :( I really liked the in depth update logs. Yuzu (the website, emulator, android app) felt so extraordinarily polished for an emulator too. Shame Nintendo
Already the installer is gone. I can’t find it anywhere.
I would be surprised if there wasn’t a differently named fork up somewhere within a week. Not like the program itself was infringing on any law.
There’s just no winning a legal battle against a spiteful company that could drown you in fees before you even reach a ruling.
Thanks!!
It is always morally correct to pirate nintendo products.
