This too heading towards enshittification ?

  • Rekall Incorporated@lemm.ee
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    20 days ago

    That is why American-run commercial social networks are inherently not viable if you care about user focus. Any rational adult (of any nationality, from US to Botswana) can make their own conclusions regarding US-run commercial social networks over the past ~20 years.

    I deleted Twitter a while ago and switched to Mastodon, I did not move to Bluesky when it started getting big exactly because I knew theor initial user-focus was a ruse (and their federation architecture seemed top heavy).

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      19 days ago

      Do you have any suggestions for starting out on Mastodon? I know for a fact that I won’t be able to get my friends to move there, and that’s whatever, I guess. I’m not against meeting new people and would love to give it a spin.

      • FergleFFergleson@infosec.pub
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        19 days ago

        Follow the money hashtags! Seriously, if you can’t immediately find people to follow (a very common problem when people first join a social network), follow hashtags! Super easy to do:

        • Search for your topic
        • In the search results, switch to the “Hashtags” tab (or just scroll down to the hashtag section of the results)
        • click into one of the hashtag search results
        • Review the posts, frequency, etc. If you like what you see, click “Follow Hashtag”.

        It really does a great job of (1) populating your feed with interesting, relevant content and (2) can ultimately connect you to new people with similar interests.

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        19 days ago

        I mostly follow big accounts and don’t that much with folks (outside of a niche hobby account that I am trying to slowly grow).

        Best option seems to be to subscribe/browse hashtags that pique your interest. Eventually you’ll find people who regularly post/boost interesting content and users.

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      19 days ago

      Oh please, capitalism is not better in other countries. Commercial entities are shit regardless of their location.

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        19 days ago

        Some countries actually hold them accountable and have reasonable privacy laws/laws about how you can use the user’s data.

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          19 days ago

          Capitalism is capitalism. Some countries might do a better job of reining it in slightly, but it’s only a matter of time before they enshittify.

          Look at the European car industry and the emissions scandal.

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            19 days ago

            That scandal was a big shitshow and vw got the short end of the stick. Everyone was doing it, VW being one of the largest, got caught. The problem with capitalism is that if one player cheats, it gets a monopoly if the others don’t. (see every US company ever. US capitalism is based on two principles: 1: print a bunch of money to buy the competition. If that fails ->2 2: cheat) This mindset has sadly contaminated the rest of the world for obvious reasons.

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              19 days ago

              So what you’re saying is, in spite of industry wide crimes, none of the CEO’s or senior leadership are in jail? Sounds like a capitalist dictatorship to me…

      • Rekall Incorporated@lemm.ee
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        19 days ago

        I like to distinguish between ideological, Friedmanite capitalism, which I call big C Capitalism and broader concepts such as trade, competition, new commercial ideas, which I call small c capitalism.

        Big C Capitalism is more of an oligarch-promoted, authoritarian ideology with clear fascistsa tendencies (see Friedman’s statement that “free markets” take precedent over democratic governance).

        Small c capitalism is more a quality of human civilization and its implementation reflects social and cultural developments.

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          19 days ago

          Capitalism is private ownership of production. That is indefensible regardless of how much you try to seperate the worst elements of capitalism from its root.

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    19 days ago

    “I think the weakness with this and [Creative Commons’] similar proposal for ‘preference signals’ is that they rely on scrapers to respect these signals out of some desire to be good actors,” White continued. “We’ve already seen some of these companies blow right past robots.txt or pirate material to scrape.”

    There’s the problem. Anything that’s publicly available on the internet either has already been scrapped, or will be scrapped, even Lemmy.

    • dnzm@feddit.nl
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      19 days ago

      Exactly! As far as I’m concerned, robots.txt should be enough: I tell your bot to stay the hell away, or not, and your bot obeys. What it scrapes for doesn’t matter, IMO.

      We don’t need more standards and rules for assholes to ignore, we need assholes to adhere to the rules.

  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    This too heading towards enshittification ?

    As the article says, they’re trying to develop a standard like robots.txt that prevents scraping for usage by AI companies.

    While I think this is futile in an industry that’s already dominated by oligarchical tech companies, it’s at least an attempt to make things better than the status quo of “we’ll steal your shit and you can’t do anything nurr nurrrrr”

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      19 days ago

      Both funny and sad how quick folks are to comment just so they can dunk on Thing They Dislike, without bothering to look past the headline that misrepresents the point of the article.

      ‘Bluesky bad, updoots to the left’ mentality that I naively hoped had been left behind on Reddit.