Saw this in the news today Israel-Gaza war: US carries out its first aid airdrop in strip https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68457937
I don’t get it… the US has been a really vocal and financial supporter of the state of Israel, why are they also supporting the Palestinians who oppose them?
Hamas, the government of Palestine, is the enemy. The Palestinian people are humans and humans need help. The US has long standing treaties with Israel and we have to honor those. Not doing so would put a lot more people at risk and could lead to chaos around the world. The president is working through diplomatic channels to reign in Israel’s response. In the meantime the US can send out humanitarian aid to those that need it.
Yeah, if you side with the oppressor. You know that Israel starved Gaza for 3 weeks before Hamas even responded?
They literally cut off food, clean water, medical supplies for 3 fucking weeks before the first attack. People’s family were dying in the hospitals completely unnecessarily.
Ask yourself if you honestly think that anyone else would act differently. Do you honestly think that you would act different when you see your father/mother/brother/sister die because Israel blocked off all your help because of “politics”?
That’s the story that doesn’t reach the US and many places in the western world. How it all began.
And if you really want to know how Palestine has been fucked over, you’d have to go back to 1945. When you know the history, there’s no fucking way you would side with Israel.
Source?
If you agree with Hamas, just a few links:
https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hamas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance_of_the_Gaza_Strip
And I could go on. There are no “good guys” in this conflict. Only human victims. What the Israeli government is doing is terrible and indefensible. I’ll never pass your impossible purity test, so I’m not even going to try.
This is beside the point but it’s “rein in” (as in using reins, the straps attached to a mouthpiece and head harness intended to guide a horse).
It’s a tough situation that has no quick solution. Most people are unaware of how hard Biden is working to resolve this nasty situation. Both Hamas and Hezbollah attacked Israel. Israel’s response has been, “over the top”, as Biden said. Yeah, we have treaties with Israel, even though Israel spied on the US and attacked the USS Liberty in the past.
Over the top is so much of an understatement that it’s almost a lie. They are using the conflict as an excuse to commit ethnic cleansing. It is not in any way a proportionate or even effective response if the goal is to protect Israeli citizens from further attacks.
Hamas isn’t the government of Palestine. That is the PLA. Hamas are an extremist group that controls the Gaza strip.
Technically they won the last election and they do run the government in Gaza. So like it or not they are basically the government in Gaza.
They are also an extremist group but that doesn’t make them not a government. Likud is also an extremist group but they control the government of Israel.
The last election was over a decade ago. Also, Gaza is only one part of Palestine.
Yes they won’t the last election and then cancelled all future elections, because that’s what Islamists do. Voting in things to decide issues is antithetical to their religious law. And they are immensely popular.
Of Gaza, not the West Bank.
Sorry but this is just wrong. Israel is very explicit about attacking all Palestinians. They are also explicit about their plans to drive them from their Land even more. The US full well knows and supports the Israeli plan to commit genocide and mass displacement to the Palestinians.
The only purpose of the current actions is to create a veil of deniability, to not be charged as a direct accomplice in the crimes. If the US had a genuine interest to fight Hamas, while helping the Palestinians, they would have sanctioned Israel to hell decades ago, established a new UN mandate and return the stolen land, while providing proper justice and opportunity to the Palestinian people, until either two equal or one united state is founded.
The US has been enabling Israel in its crimes against the Palestinians and through this enabled Hamas, as well as helped the Israeli government to help Hamas, which Netanyahu himself was very outspoken about.
I don’t think the US wants Israel to be doing this. It is creating a big headache for them and harming Biden’s popularity. It’s more accurate to say they don’t care about the genocide as much as they should, and in the absence of public pressure probably would have supported Israel so as to maintain a key alliance. So it’s more that they want to pursue their geopolitical goals interests, and the Palestinians don’t really register in that sense because they are weak militarily.
I disagree. Thge main purpose of Israel to the US is to sow division amongst the Middle Eastern countries and to keep the US allied countries under control. Putting the countries against each other and putting the people against their leaders, but in a way that is still supressable with US support, is the cynical way of keeping the region weak. China made it happen that both Saudi Arabia and Iran have joined the BRICS. If those two were to reconcile with each other, the US strategy would fail. By confronting Saudi Arabia with a clear moral failure, that they are yet unable to speak up about, they make it more difficult for Saudi Arabia to seek alliances outside the US influence. At the same time the people are angry with their leader to he needs the US arms support to be able to supress his people, if shit would hit the fan.
It is only creating a headache for Biden because not only are the Israelis commiting genocide in Gaza, they feel so sure about themselves, that they are also bragging about it. If the Israeli public, in particular the supporters of Netanyahu wouldn’t be so bloodthirsty, that they demand the genocide to be accompanied by genocidal rethoric, the US and Israel could do about the same, while keeping it under the rug.
Idk, some leaked comments show that Biden freaking hates Netanyahu, so I don’t buy the “genocide is not being taken seriously” argument. My theory is that the administration is too scared to act against Israel.
“Hamas is the enemy” is telling on yourself. LIKUD is the greater evil.
Especially since BB and the LIKUD advocated letting money be funneled to Hamas to help keep the PA from being able to gain a foothold. Israel holds as much responsibility for the actions of Hamas as anyone, as they’ve intentionally set up the situations that lead to the current genocide.
Anyone blaming Hamas and not Israel is either ignorant or spreading propaganda.