• tehn00bi@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Perhaps this is just a problem with the way the model works. Always requiring new data and unable to use current data, to ponder and expand upon while making new connections about ideas that influenced the author… LLM’s are a smoke and mirrors show, not a real intelligence.

  • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    He’s afraid of losing his little empire.

    OpenAI also had no clue on recreation the happy little accident that gave them chatGPT3. That’s mostly because their whole thing was using a simple model and brute forcing it with more data, more power, more nodes and then even more data and power until it produced results.

    As expected, this isn’t sustainable. It’s beyond the point of decreasing returns. But Sam here has no idea on how to fix that with much better models so goes back to the one thing he knows: more data needed, just one more terabyte bro, ignore the copyright!

    And now he’s blaming the Chinese into forcing him to use even more data.

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    4 months ago

    I’m fine with this. “We can’t succeed without breaking the law” isn’t much of an argument.

    Do I think the current copyright laws around the world are fine? No, far from it.

    But why do they merit an exception to the rules that will make them billions, but the rest of us can be prosecuted in severe and dramatic fashion for much less. Try letting the RIAA know you have a song you’ve downloaded on your PC that you didn’t pay for - tell them it’s for “research and training purposes”, just like AI uses stuff it didn’t pay for - and see what I mean by severe and dramatic.

    It should not be one rule for the rich guys to get even richer and the rest of us can eat dirt.

    Figure out how to fix the laws in a way that they’re fair for everyone, including figuring out a way to compensate the people whose IP you’ve been stealing.

    Until then, deal with the same legal landscape as everyone else. Boo hoo

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      I also think it’s really rich that at the same time they’re whining about copyright they’re trying to go private. I feel like the ‘Open’ part of OpenAI is the only thing that could possibly begin to offset their rampant theft and even then they’re not nearly open enough.

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        They are not releasing anything of value in open source recently.

        Sam altman said they were on the wrong side of history about this when deepseek released.

        They are not open anymore I want that to be clear. They decided to stop releasing open source because 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵.

        So yeah I can have huge fines for downloading copyrighted material where I live, and they get to make money out of that same material without even releasing anything open source? Fuck no.

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          4 months ago

          Absolutely agreed - and to make matters worse, their clearly stated goals ultimately amount to replacing all of us with their AI. This deal just keeps getting better, doesn’t it?

  • RejZoR@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    That’s like calling stealing from shops essential for my existence and it would be “over” for me if they stop me. The shit these clowns say is just astounding. It’s like they have no morals and no self awareness and awareness for people around them.

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      4 months ago

      I think they are either completely delusional, or they know very well how important AI is for the government and the military. The same cannot be said for regular people and their daily struggles.

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      That’s like calling stealing from shops essential for my existence and it would be “over” for me if they stop me.

      What’s really fucked up is that for some people this is not far from their reality at all

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      4 months ago

      In America, companies have more rights than the human person.

      If companies say that they need to do something to survive, that makes it ok. If a human needs to do something to survive, that’s a crime.

      Know the difference. (/s)

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    I’m fine for them to use copyrighted material, provided that everyone can do the same without reprecautions Fuck double standards. Fuck IP. People should have access to knowledge without having to pay.

    PS. I know this might be an unpopular opinion

    Edit: typos

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        I couldn’t agree more. The thing with IP is that it tends to last almost forever, thus it almost never enters public domain, at least in a man’s lifetime. The result is it stifles innovation and prevents knowledge NAD entertainment to the masses. Lastly almost always, it’s not the creator that benefits of it, rather than a huge corp

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    4 months ago

    Strange that no one mentioned openai making money off copyrighted works.

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    4 months ago

    “How am I supposed to make any money if I can’t steal all of my products to sell back to the world that produced them?”

    Yeah, fuck that. The whole industry deserves to die.

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    4 months ago

    I always felt using publicly available but copyrighted works could be ok but only if the model is publicly available as well

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    4 months ago

    He’s right tho. China don’t care. You think the west will be able to outcompete China with such limitations?

    And the end result is the same, no one was compensated and a dictatorship is running one of the most important new IT tools.

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    4 months ago

    Guarantee their plan is to blow through copyright laws to create a monopoly fiefdom, close the door behind them and demand that copyright is used to protect the work their LLM creates.