• 1984@lemmy.todayOP
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    7 months ago

    Someone said on hacker news that he is doing it to force open Ai to share their secrets.

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      7 months ago

      Someone said on hacker news …

      That someone simply read the lawsuit that’s been posted a billion times. Did you read the article you posted? The first sentence links to their summary of the lawsuit.

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        it’s not the worst thing in the world to fight for AI to be completely open

        No, but is that really what Musk is trying to do here?

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          Which is why I said:

          Whether it’s a genuine pursuit or not on Elon’s part

          I suppose I didn’t separate those thoughts properly. But that’s exactly what I was getting at. If you read his lawsuit, that’s certainly at least part of the picture he’s trying to paint.

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            My point was more that I’m not sure what he’s doing counts as “fighting to keep AI open”. I mean, yes, that may be the stated purpose, but I really don’t believe that’s what he’s getting at

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              Musk alleges that OpenAI’s partnership with Microsoft has transformed the organization “into a closed-source de facto subsidiary” of Microsoft that’s focused on maximizing profits.

              Yeah. There’s some verbiage there to suggest that. And I believe the part where I said whether he’s genuine about it , covers my thought.

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      Might be easier to force them to change their name if they ain’t “open” (source) anymore /s

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        Not gonna lie, their name is a huge annoyance for me. They’re about as open as Bill Gates is a philanthropist

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      7 months ago

      There’s no real secret. They scraped the collected works of humanity with no regard for intellectual property rights and are now hiding behind the guise of being a “non-profit” company, despite raking in loads.

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        I get the last part of your comment, where they make money from their AI’s, but I’m curious if you could explain why them scraping everything on the internet is a bad thing? I’m really curious, as I see it more as an advantage that they could scrape just everything rather than a disadvantage: if we start getting LLMs that only scrape certain sites or certain topics, we’re just making the echo chambers even more defined.

        Them scraping everything feels a bit like the internet era where APIs were open and semi-unlimited.

        I do get that them having used , for example, all the Tolkien books as part of their dataset, and users being able to ask their tools to “write a new LOTR” book, could be seen as a problem, but even then it’s only a problem when they commercialise it, and we have laws in place for those things. Fanfics have always been a thing and are just the same, except that it takes more effort as it’s a human writing it.

        Again: I’m really curious about your view and opinion, as you can see that mine is quite different.

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        7 months ago

        There is a secret somewhere, because they are doing a lot better than Microsoft and Google. :)