• Flyberius [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    I mean, the US was stirring up shit on their doorstep for nearly a decade. What did they expect to happen?

    And I mean, if the US can start wars half way across the world to protect its borders and interests I don’t think they can be too surprised if another power does the same thing in their own front yard.

    Regardless, I find the NATO malding utterly delicious. US about to lose yet another war.

    • jackmarxist [any]@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      Favourite thing about this is that he literally admitted like 30 years ago that expanding NATO will provoke a reaction from Russia eventually and was against it before he got the MIC bribes. If they were so keen on expanding NATO then they should’ve let Russia into it when Yeltsin was in power and they could’ve had the entirety of eastern Europe in their fold but they just couldn’t resist punishing the Russian people for trusting the west in the 80s.

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        8 months ago

        You are attempting to rewrite history. Russia was in a downward spiral. As a whole it had yet to show that it could be a full ally to the West. Moreover, it is extremely rare in history for ideologically divergent cultures to become allies within the short term (exceptions such as Japan and USA, UK and USA, UK and France come to mind). It takes time (and usually generations removed) for such things to occur.

        Now, it appears the West’s hesitation at the time to accept Russia into NATO was prescient. Yes, maybe things could have been different if Russia had been accepted, but the risk that the alliance would have been shattered due to Russia’s entry was too much to bear.

        I for one do hope that one day Russia and the West become will become allies, but Russia has some maturing to do in regards to liberty and governance, I think, before that time comes.