I hate the whole concept of references. I don’t want to ask a favor from someone in my past. I don’t want to keep contact info for former bosses or co-workers.

Our society is like:

Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.

Have personal responsibility.

Your success or your failure is 100% due to your good or poor choices.

Employers: “By the way, you are going to need help from some strangers in your past in order to get a job with our company.”

Companies are constantly trying to figure out how to pay workers less. I would absolutely take less money if the hiring process didn’t have so much hoop-jumping. How has capitalism not figured that one out yet?

  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    To prove that there are at least a couple of people in the world you trust will definitely say good things about you.

    It’s not a high bar, but I’d be hesitant to hire someone who can’t name even one or two people that would praise their work.

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      9 months ago

      Exactly. If you can cherry-pick a few people that can honestly (or dishonestly?) vouch for your work, then you’ve already passed that bar.

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      9 months ago

      That sounds reasonable until you consider that kids starting out at their adult life very often only have friends and family who could act as a reference.

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        9 months ago

        When I started out I used people from volunteer work I had done as references. Most kids should have done something like being a camp counsellor or helping out at an event by the time they look for their first real job.

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            9 months ago

            Volunteer work is good for kids to get some experience. It’s usually a lot less pressure than a real job. It’s just a chance to dip your toes into some responsibility. The entire point is to start small so that you can accumulate some of those references. It’s not some capitalist conspiracy.