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MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

If, say, you were the President with congressional support, how would you handle the “Gun Control” question?

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If, say, you were the President with congressional support, how would you handle the “Gun Control” question?

MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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    Something that starts from a drivers licensing model

    • age limitations
    • limitations based on previous history of unsafe behavior
    • required education
    • required demonstration of safe gun handling/storage skills and knowledge of applicable laws
    • different levels of license endorsement, e.g., licensed for 1 gun, 2-5 guns, or 6+ guns, types/sizes of guns,
    • license based on conditions in which they can be used, aka, easier to get a license limited to hunting with a shotgun than concealed carrying a pistol
    • background check for any and all sales or transfers of ownership between anyone not in a parent/child/sibling relationship
    • remove barriers to suing gun sellers who don’t abide by sales/background check rules when the buyer ends up using the gun to hurt people. Maybe even go so far as to define their level of liability
    • remove barriers to suing people who don’t properly store their guns, and lead to gun access by someone who uses it to cause harm, and again, maybe defining some default level of liability
    • requirement for gun owners to carry liability insurance
    • halt sales of guns from US to known cartels under the bullshit guise of anti-terrorism/anti-drug ops
    • funded auditing program at the federal level designed to monitor chain of gun manufacturers to dealers to customers to ensure compliance with licensing requirements

    Now the question of how to do all this in a way that wouldn’t get shut down as federal overreach into issues that should be managed by states… Oh, yeah, interstate commerce. Gun control is a more logical application for the interstate commerce clause than how Republicans are prepping to use it for women running from one state to another for abortion access.

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      Yeah I often point at driver’s licenses when gun stuff comes up. Way more people need to drive than need a gun, but getting a license to drive a car is pretty tightly regulated.

      If cars had been a thing when the bill of rights was written, we might have an amendment that read like “travel being necessary for the well being of the state, the right to drive vehicles shall not be infringed”. We’d then have absolutely pants on head stupid rules around cars. No licensing, no testing, no safety regulations. People would be driving tanks around. Cars would pollute even more. And people would frenzy themselves up with “but it’s my right!!!”

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        Summed up sovereign citizens pretty clearly there.

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        Yeah, but even with all that regulation we still have stupidly giant SUVs killing kids.

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        Getting a gun requires background checks. Buying ammo requires an ID for age verification. You can bypass the system, but that applies to cars too.

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      Yeah I’d say this is a really sensible start. Outright banning them right out of the gate probably isn’t gonna fly in the US, but his is a good start.

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      There wasn’t a federal law passed that increased the drinking age to 21. Instead, a law was passed that would reduce the annual highway budget by 10% for any state that didn’t increase the drinking age themselves.

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      Biggest one of mine:

      Mandatory, standardized securing of the guns. Basic gun safe strength, ability to mount to studs in walls. Mode of entry doesn’t matter…mechanical cypher, biometric, whatever, so long as the lock isn’t easily defeated.

      Same with carrying in a vehicle. Bolt it down.

      If people can afford thousands of dollars worth of guns they can certainly afford a decent safe.

      Edit:

      Unsecured handguns account for the majority of firearm suicide deaths in the United States, study finds

      Overall, firearms used in unintentional injury deaths were often stored loaded (74%) and unlocked (76%) and were most commonly accessed from nightstands and other sleeping areas (30%).

      It is difficult to ascertain the exact number of guns that are stolen from individuals in the United States because many of these thefts are not reported to law enforcement. However, estimates from a number of survey studies indicate that roughly 200,000 to 400,000 guns are stolen from individuals each year…Whether taken from gun stores or from individual gun owners, a firearm is stolen every 2 minutes. These stolen guns are often diverted directly into illegal trafficking networks and end up being used in the commission of violent crimes.

      The Largest Source of Stolen Guns? Parked Cars.

      All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm: According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence. Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

      The Southern [of the USA] region has the highest percentage of house-holds with firearms and the least safe storage practices (Okoro et al. 2005). Not surprisingly, most Southern states are “exporters” of guns traced in crime (Mayors Against Illegal Guns 2010).

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