I’m confused by anyone who demands Ukraine should cede territory and denies they can ever join NATO. Have fun seeing Crimean/Ukrainian/etc. conflicts repeat every few years while Russia keeps learning the lesson that imperialism is back in style. Are these people literal children, or Russian bots?
Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes as part of the Budapest Memorandum which Russia shat on, and the United States showed how little their security assurances were worth. The sad reality now is Ukraine could be admitted to NATO tomorrow and it would not matter one bit, because our current president believes himself a king who cannot be forced to abide any previous treaty, law, or norm of human decency.
So Ukraine wasn’t building up an army to recover Crimea and fight against anti-n.a.t.o. separatism in its south-east ? Zelensky was elected as an alternative to anti-russians and did the opposite.
It’s just like saying that Russia will invade the rest of Europe or other lies, we just can’t tell the truth and our population are even ignoring the talking points of the opponent. The non-westerners know our point of view, never difficult to understand, we’re the ones systematically ignoring theirs, and lying with biases visible even to those agreeing with us.
Huh. I didn’t take a look at your links and kinda expected to have problems with the mods for that comment anyway.
Seems like we have the same opinion and lemmy.ml is indeed not Reddit.
Sorry for such a bad comment, i’m french and our president, but far from only him, said a few annoying things that made me want to vent out, honestly i don’t know why, just that it’s one of these times when everything i’m hearing from the radio or t.v. or some twitter accounts of politicians just annoy me, it was a pointless comment in that sense, probably the equivalent of seeking a (verbal )fight in a pub, i was just getting ready to be angry at a poor pro-ukrainian as if it was productive, 🤷
I don’t think it was a bad comment, only that it was misdirected at someone who agrees with you. My comment was satirically phrased, making it easy to misinterpret, so that’s understandable.
I’m confused by anyone who demands Ukraine should cede territory and denies they can ever join NATO. Have fun seeing Crimean/Ukrainian/etc. conflicts repeat every few years while Russia keeps learning the lesson that imperialism is back in style. Are these people literal children, or Russian bots?
Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes as part of the Budapest Memorandum which Russia shat on, and the United States showed how little their security assurances were worth. The sad reality now is Ukraine could be admitted to NATO tomorrow and it would not matter one bit, because our current president believes himself a king who cannot be forced to abide any previous treaty, law, or norm of human decency.
Right, Russia simply shat on the Budapest Memorandum unprovoked; the West and Ukraine didn’t shit on any promises and accords beforehand. And history began exactly three years.
So Ukraine wasn’t building up an army to recover Crimea and fight against anti-n.a.t.o. separatism in its south-east ? Zelensky was elected as an alternative to anti-russians and did the opposite.
It’s just like saying that Russia will invade the rest of Europe or other lies, we just can’t tell the truth and our population are even ignoring the talking points of the opponent. The non-westerners know our point of view, never difficult to understand, we’re the ones systematically ignoring theirs, and lying with biases visible even to those agreeing with us.
Did you mean to reply to OOC?
Huh. I didn’t take a look at your links and kinda expected to have problems with the mods for that comment anyway.
Seems like we have the same opinion and lemmy.ml is indeed not Reddit.
Sorry for such a bad comment, i’m french and our president, but far from only him, said a few annoying things that made me want to vent out, honestly i don’t know why, just that it’s one of these times when everything i’m hearing from the radio or t.v. or some twitter accounts of politicians just annoy me, it was a pointless comment in that sense, probably the equivalent of seeking a (verbal )fight in a pub, i was just getting ready to be angry at a poor pro-ukrainian as if it was productive, 🤷
I don’t think it was a bad comment, only that it was misdirected at someone who agrees with you. My comment was satirically phrased, making it easy to misinterpret, so that’s understandable.
Speaking of “literal children”: people like you who don’t know the difference between “is” and “ought”
“I’m so fucking smart, no reasonable person could possibly disagree with my flawless takes”