Quite the unpopular opinion, but I just wanted to post this to show the silent majority that we still exist. We have reached a point where voicing criticism against wayland is treated like the worst thing ever and leads you to being censored and what not. The red hat funded multi year long shill campaign has proven to be quite successful. Now do the same for immutable distros and every new buzzword that restricts your ability to make changes to your system and the long term plan of completely sabotaging the linux desktop will finally come true. That is all.

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    Okay, so what do you dislike about wayland from a technical standpoint? Or is it just the creator that you personally don’t like?

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      Not the op but wasn’t it thought for kiosk applications, then extended to login screens, then lauded as the savior from Xorg, while causing another promising attempt to give up?

      Technical side, i dont see the exact opposide extreme to Xorg (Having everything merged in the WM vs. having most in the server) as the solution, will lead to lots of maintainability issues and fragmentation. Better would have been where the Display Server has some common elements and a sane approach to modularity.

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        wasn’t it thought for kiosk applications, then extended to login screens

        No, that’s a really pervasive myth, spread by trolls.

        Wayland - or rather, Weston - first came into use in the embedded scene because things are a lot simpler to change there and the limitations of Xorg even more unforgiving… But it was never designed for that purpose alone, it was always meant to replace Xorg everywhere.

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        Wayland has it’s fair share of problems that haven’t been solved yet, but most of those points are nonsense.

        If that person lived a little over a hundred years ago and wrote a rant about cars vs horses instead, it’d go something like this:

        Think twice before abandoning Horses. Cars break everything!
        Cars break if you stuff hay in the fuel tank!
        Cars are incompatible with horse shoes!
        You can’t shove your dick in a car’s mouth!

        The rant you’re linking makes about as much sense.

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          Is wayland the horse here. That would make sense. Xorg would be the car since it is objectively better and actually works. The only “benefits” of wayland would be similar to saying horses are better since they don’t contribute to global warming.

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            Dude - you’re either stupid enough to not realise the irony of what you’ve just said, or you’re trolling. For your sake, I kinda hope it’s the latter

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        Most of them are totally false… or completely dumb. if an application “doesn’t support wayland” it doesn’t mean that you can’t do the thing with something else, or the devs are working to support it…

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          The fact that such a thing exists shows the intentional flaw. Why should an application write different code for multiple compositors? It’s almost like they want devs to feel frustrated.

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            Wait til you hear about other OS, or even how most windows 95 apps doesn’t work in later OS

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        Okay so that’s a link. You were asked a direct question. Can you not answer it with your own words?