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        And not even impossible. The EU council and commission can basically freely decide if a state counts as “European”.

        I think the biggest hurdle might be that Canada would immediately be the 5th most powerful member state because of their population.

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          The EU is talking to Turkey about membership (on and off…), and I would say that Canada is more European than Turkey.

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          As the EU mostly does not decide population based but with equal votes per country that wouldn’t be an issue.

          The larger issue is the fact that the European and US regulations clash in a lot of things so it would be harder for Canadian companies to export to the US then.

          But otherwise: We would absolutely welcome you.

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      I don’t think Canada should fully be in the EU, but some kind of set of bilateral arrangements like Switzerland has would be a good start.

      Since Canada has lots of historical ties with the UK, it might work out well to have some kind of arrangement with the UK, Canada and the EU. That would let Britain start to undo some of the damage from Brexit, while also allowing Canada to reinforce those ties to the UK.

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      We didn’t know we had that option. But hell yeah… what do we have to do? Make Google and Apple put a “West Europe” label over Canada?

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        Euthanising people instead of treating them, forcing schools to observe gay pride

        Sure, it’s nowhere near as bad as America, probably very good compared to American standards (you only really have USA and Mexico up there) but not too great either.

        But if USA would invade Canada, I would support us defending Canada. We both swear fielty to His Majesty King Charles III, and we’re part of NATO, which I support. An attack on one is an attack on all. Even if the attacker is a rogue American state.

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          uncovered a total of four cases where veterans were allegedly offered MAID — all apparently by the same caseworker.

          You’re judging an entire country for the actions of one person, when the people in that country had the same reaction as you, and investigated it and dealt with it?

          The other story you’re citing is from a conservative US owned newspaper. And what’s wrong with celebrating pride? Also education is under the jurisdiction of the Provincial governments which are democratically elected. So you can see the bias there where the actions of democratically elected government are characterized as being somehow nefarious… for doing their jobs. Also note the part where “sources” say Muslims are taking their children out of school. Just Americans trying stir up shit and create division in Canada for profit. That’s Postmedia for you.

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          I don’t disagree with you that euthanized people instead of treating them is fucked, but that’s definitely a side effect of capitalism, because it’s cheaper to just euthanize than have the system support them.

          About the “forcing schools to observe gay pride”: it appears you posted an article from national post, which has a known centre-right bias, so i read the article to see if the headline is actually accurate, and it very much isn’t.

          Aside from this, what I see is laws prohibiting discrimination, and people being allowed their right to protest a perform “walk-outs”, which doesn’t sound like forcing them to observe gay pride at all.

          The requirement was for them to not discriminate and to not make queer people feel unsafe. A lot of the teachers chose, on their own accord, to celebrate pride. This headline is clearly intentionally emotional and grossly misrepresents a situation that deserves far more nuance.

          I’d argue that right now, Canada is nothing more than very slightly centre-left, maybe. But it is far from “the other extreme”.

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            Fair enough. Maybe I have been injected with too much kool-aid. Ty for your balanced response

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    I’m an American who lives in the UK and I’ll go to war for you guys before I ever go for the US military.

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    From the UK and personally, 100% yes but not sure I feel the rest of the population would agree. I mean, a lot of us turned our backs on the EU and there’s a lot of cross over with US right wing nutters.

    However, I would believe that when push comes to shove, we would be generally willing to defend Canada, Australia and NZ over anyone else, and then European countries at the next level. The reaction in support for Ukraine was pretty universal here and there are still lots of donations and support that is not shared with any African, Asian or Central/South American countries having similar problems.

    Basically, you’re white so yes you can count on us!

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        If we rolled back a decade, Putin wasn’t around and something happened like idk, China invaded western Russia, I can imagine us helping Russia.

        I should change it to “your population is mostly white so yes you can count on us”. I say this as an English born non-white person who has seen the differences in public reactions to Ukraine and other conflicts (Syria, various African ones, Gaza etc). Can’t say for certain it’s because of this reason but certainly feels like it!

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          I’m sure for some (sad and backwards) people it is a racially motivated position - but for many others I think it has more to do with cultural and geographical proximity.

          But then our elected representatives go and fuck up the Middle East… I don’t know.

          As an aside, do you know my favourite rugby chant? I’ve heard it at Wales v England rugby games:

          “I’d rather wear a turban than a rose, I’d rather wear a turban than a rose, I’d rather wear a turban, I’d rather wear a turban, I’d rather wear a turban than a rose.”

          I have a Russian friend who lives in (south) Wales and when he first arrived (10-15 years ago) he couldn’t understand non-white people being Welsh. Years later he realised that a green person born in Newport is already more Welsh than he’ll ever be.

          The UK is a very contradictory bastard union that has - so far - somehow managed to stay in one piece.

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        That’s a very good point and can’t believe I didn’t think of that! Surely the British army would have to protect “his majesty’s realm” or some bollocks like that.

        I just read that Canada hosts Britain’s largest overseas base, although it seems to be for training purposes.

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    i was wondering around Berlin once upon a time. in the park behind the parliament.

    a slightly overly helpful german said “excuse me. are you lost?” i mumbled “no no, not really”

    they walked beside me for a bit and said “ah you are english. i will take you to the parliament it’s just over there”. and i agreed

    then they said “your boys died for my country” which really took my breath away

    so yeah we got your back cananadia. that’s what we do when the fundamentalists kick off. even if we have to die

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    Let’s see… The UK…who needed America to get involved to end WW2 and France who are literally a meme for surrendering these days (despite having the greatest military track record of any nation still standing).

    I’m sure they got your back. Lol.

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        Is it only a meme in American spaces? I learned the meme from my German family growing up so I thought it was at least a meme in general.

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      France is only a meme if you know nothing about history, and assuming you’re American (as if that isn’t extremely obvious) that sounds about right

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      That’s … an interesting take on history. It seems filtered and has a weird PoV.

      Maybe brush up a bit, okay?

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        Listen I would give Canada some nukes, but something tells me America is currently not inclined to give Canada anything lol.

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          Bruh, we were literally talking about the UK and France, both are nuclear powers, they have plenty of warheads. Did you not know that? 🤦‍♂️

          You don’t need a lot, just like 20 warheads will kneecap the entire US.

          They don’t even have to use it, just threaten to use it.

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            Yes thank you captain obvious. I know how mutually assured destruction works.

            I am very aware that both the UK and France have nukes. The way he worded his comment I thought he was talking about America giving Canada nukes, but the UK and/or France make more sense given the hypothetical posed by the original post. I was responding to the comment while I was on the phone. Divided attention n all that.

            Dont talk down to people like that. Its condescending and you have no idea how intelligent anyone actually is based off one comment. You know what they say about making assumptions.

            Something something we all get some ass.

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              You need to start understanding that the US is not the defender of democracy anymore. When people talk of protecting democracy, no one is thinking of getting from the US because you’re the ones we’re trying to defend against. With each passing day your country is becoming the enemy of democracy.

              I know this may be difficult to accept, but the US may become the great villains of the 21st century just as the Nazis were the villains of the 20th. We all hope that that won’t happen, but we see the signs and we have to be prepared to defend democracy from US aggression.

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        donate some nukes to Canada

        Nothing to see here, though. That, um, was a tall subterranean grain elevator. Thanks for thinking of us. Yeah, great weather we’re having.

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      What an incredibly deep ignorance about the modern world.

      If you’re curious about how countries militaries actually stack up these days I’d suggest looking into the results of some of the recent NATO joint exercises. The French military is actually quite formidable with a lot of recent heavy intervention in old colonies and anti terrorism strike force actions lately… now, nothing can really compare to the insane US military budget but France is pretty fucking serious.

      The UK is a joke, though.

      The real sleeping bears are the Baltics though. Those fucks are scared shitless of Russia and have heavily invested in widespread training in an effort to present Russia with an occupational nightmare due to partisan resistance if they ever invade.

      As a contrast while China has a shit load of stuff there was a massive amount of military supply corruption leading to a really high practical failure rate. They’ve got infantry for days of course, and their navy is quite serious… but there’s a strong suspicion that China’s airforce is much weaker than numbers would suggest.

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    They don’t even have their own backs. Look at their military spending. It’s pretty low.

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    Northern Brit here: we have to have each other’s backs. The only way we’re getting off Mr Bones’ Wild Ride is together ❤️ we can do this.

    Resist. Rebel. Revolt. ✊

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    If it ever comes to it you can count on me. Sorry we put you guys in this position.