Fad or relevant?
If ESG is anything to go by, just a greenwashing fad they’ll drop as soon as it doesn’t have the desired effect
It is about as useful as a bullshit milkshake is to a vegan.
Virtue signalling at its worst. It’s completely meaningless.
Is it ending capitalism? If not, it’s greenwashing. Any action other than stopping the one thing fucking up our planet is a distraction.
Communism will save the environment.
Who said anything about communism? I mean yes it’s an option but I think the bigger priority is getting rid of fossil fascism.
What options are there really other than capitalism, communism, and everything that mixes the two?
No, you’re right. There’s only two sides: the good side and the evil side. You have to pick one and if you don’t you’re just in between the two.
Well if you force me to choose I will go for the one that won’t fucking murder the planet and everyone on it, thank you very much.
yet you iphone venezuela 100 garillion dead!!1!1!!!1!1!
Huh, figured your instance was anticommunist after that bad experience with /196’s modteam. (banned me for saying maaybe we shouldn’t be quoting Keffals, an open grifter who I’ve now been made aware of is also an open pedophile) Pleasantly surprised to see that isn’t the case.
That’s weird, this instance is pretty left leaning from my experience.
My website is running off of spare resources on my 10w router, and yet my 30w monitor that I’ve been using for 10+ years still says that I’ve saved exactly 0.0 trees every time I turn it on. Thank you, now please fuck off with that bullshit.
ecosia
Meaningless bread and circus created by capitalist elites to delude people into thinking we are more responsible than them for pollution. Wonder why these BS certifications do not get created outside of West… something something manufacturing consent media literacy
Whatever it is, it’s a joke. Things like this just take the focus off the people actually causing the problem.
Yeah, this goes into the same bin as carbon offset. Just because you had a couple trees planted in one part of the world you should not be allowed to polute the rivers in another part of the world.
I personally think it’s kind of dumb as hell. I’m not sure how you would know but also websites are a tiny fraction of emissions. If you want to lower emissions it’s much more effective to go for legislation local to you.
Is it too difficult to post some context?
This appears to be the calculator: https://www.websitecarbon.com/
And it only appears to check the size of downloaded assets and then whether the hosting provider is known to use renewables. Indeed not terribly exhaustive or useful.
Marketing bullshit that appeals to some low-information, vibes-based liberals.
Implying they’re not all vibes-based liberals. (try avoid using low-information due to its ties with the racist dogwhistle “low-information voter”)
I’ve never seen low-information voter used as a racist dog whistle, at least not when it first used during the Obama years. Has it been used differently since?
UC Berkeley cognitive linguist George Lakoff, 2012: Dumb and dumber: The ‘low-information’ voter:As the U.S. presidential campaign heats up, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are piling up money and shoring up their political bases. But they’re also going after a few million voters in a handful of swing states — voters considered critical to winning the election. And within this bloc of voters is a special camp: “low-information voters,” or LIVs, a term that keeps popping up in magazines and political blogs.
The term is mainly used by liberals to refer to those who vote conservative against their interests and the best interests of the nation. It assumes they vote that way because they lack sufficient information about issues. The assumption being, of course, that if only they had the real facts, they would vote differently — for both their own best interests and those of the nation.
The problem is that, as neutral as the term “low-information voters” may sound, it’s pejorative and used to express frustration with these voters, who (we’re told) act against their own best interests. Liberals tend to attribute the problem in large part to conscious Republican efforts at misinformation — say, on Fox News or talk radio — and in part to faulty information gleaned from friends, family and random sources.
to refer to those who vote conservative against their interests
They mean black people who don’t vote for them. That’s why it’s a dogwhistle. It became a lot more clear what they meant by that during the 2016 presidential election between Clinton and Trump. The implication being that the reason they weren’t voting for them was because they were intellectually inferior, and not because they were making a conscious and willing decision to not vote for a neoliberal hag.
I mean you’re probably not murdering anyone by using it, just wanted to tip you off of its problematic connotations.
Good to know, thanks.
Pretty much. Being liberal myself, it drives me insane seeing the absolute triple people will buy into. Websites aren’t the things to target, let’s look at things like cruise ships and transitioning to renewable energy.
Greenwashing for profit.
If this encourages light, fast loading pages, I’m all for it.
Lies are good if I like one of the outcomes they promote!
The future is no JavaScript!!
I wish.
Same as “carbon footprint” - meaningless greenwashed bullshit there to shift focus away from those responsible, and the true scale of the damage they’re causing for money.
If anything - seeing that kind of certification would make me actively avoid a company because you know they’re at best using it to virtue signal for profits, at worst and more likely, they’re using it to cover up much much worse shit they’re doing.
We are getting dumber
Mostly seems a bit silly but I think if people were making any sort of large decisions based on it, I would probably raise an eyebrow. But I like the idea of people considering the environmental impact of everything they do. Crypto Bros sure could’ve used that lesson.
It’s not like it’s doing any harm unless people put too much stock into it. Like the energy star rating on my HVAC unit - it’s just information to me. It’s not like I’m making major decisions based off of it or getting the feel goods. No reason this can’t be like that.
I like the energy star because if you skip past the marketing and look at the label it tells you how many watts the device uses. Super useful!
Exactly. It also gives you an annual estimate of the electric costs. I have no idea how accurate it is, but since they all use the same rating, I can at least compare on the fly if I am so inclined.
