EDIT: Thanks, guys! I ended up downloading Heliboard from f-droid :)

        • chebra@mstdn.io
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          20 days ago

          @Karcinogen Disclaimer isn’t going to cut it. Are you the same person as the other 5 guys in this thread who had exactly the same argument and also “solved” it by adding a disclaimer? Is this an organized spam campaign? Because it sure looks like that. If you like FUTO, fine, but go take it to a community that isn’t focused on open source. Is that too much to ask? Every week? With exactly the same arguments? Are you guys blind?

          • Karcinogen@discuss.tchncs.de
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            20 days ago

            Why won’t a disclaimer cut it? I didn’t know that FUTO intentionally misconstrued the term open-source until now. What else am I supposed to do than admit I was wrong and correct my comment?

    • Arondeus@lemmy.ca
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      21 days ago

      yeah. Takes a bit to get used to but I now have less typos than on regular keyboards. 🙂

                • Tundra@lemmy.ml
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                  21 days ago

                  An extract taken from a statement on this exact topic, by FUTO:

                  "Our use of the term “open source” thus far has been not out of carelessness, but out of disdain for OSI approved licenses which nevertheless allow developers to be exploited by large corporate interests. The OSI, an organization with confidential charter members and large corporate sponsors, does not have any legal right to say what is and is not “open source”. It is arrogant of them to lay claim to the definition.

                  There is a reason these licenses and the organizations affiliated with them have the support of Google, Microsoft, Apple, and other giants. Corporate interests benefit directly from the “Fields of Endeavor” criteria within the OSI definition of open source. At FUTO, we fully believe that these kinds of licenses have failed to properly protect developers and community members from being exploited.

                  Furthermore, the OSI has done nothing to stop the proliferation of closed source malware, with “the customer is the product” as the dominant business model. They wrongly removed Eric S. Raymond from the OSI mailing list and are currently pushing for AI standards that are arguably closed source. While it is not our intention to bog this statement down in digressions about these internal OSI issues, they are worth mentioning.

                  The community has told us that “open source” has a particular meaning to them and suggested we call it “source available” instead. We have been reluctant to do so for numerous reasons.

                  Source available is not a real licensing standard and is so wildly generalized that it applies to free software, “open source” software, and in some cases even proprietary software. Many codebases deemed to be source available have extreme restrictions on everyday user’s ability to access and modify software.

                  Often, source available licenses require users to pay to access source code and then restrict the distribution of it to paying organizations. These restrictions do not apply to our software whatsoever. Using such an overly broad catch-all category that applies to nearly anything does not adequately inform people about what they can and cannot do with our software.

                  Thus, we have been calling our software “open source.” Our goal has never been to start semantic arguments about definitions, but to call attention to the wider issues we see occurring with open source software"

                  https://futo.org/about/futo-statement-on-opensource/

      • Syer10@lemmy.ca
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        22 days ago

        That seems like a open source license to me? The main parts seem to disallow making money from it and commercial use.

        • exu@feditown.comEnglish
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          21 days ago

          That goes against at least one of the fundamental freedoms for FOSS software, but that I mind much. Still, technically but open source.

        • kekmacska@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          21 days ago

          sounds like an actually great license. tired of companies using open-source plugins in propertiary applications for nefarious purposes

          • Tundra@lemmy.ml
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            21 days ago

            Exactly, that’s more than good enough for me. This model should be encouraged for companies trying to make profit, it gives the individual privacy and protects their work from being stolen by other malicious companies.

      • Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        Ah I wasn’t aware, I just assumed that even if it’s from its own repository, it is still on F-droid

        Edit: reading the license, seems open source enough but I don’t have a legal background so I’m not the most well versed in that stuff, as long as code it open is the bare minimum for me.

        • Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
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          21 days ago

          even if it’s from its own repository, it is still on F-droid

          There is nothing to stop anyone from running their own f-droid repo and distributing non-free software through it.

          seems open source enough

          This is the definition. Compare it with Futo’s license; it fails to meet both the Open Source Definition and Free Software Definition in several ways. After insisting they could redefine the term for a while (despite the definition’s wide acceptance) and inspiring some of their very vocal fans to promulgate their dishonest argument on their behalf, Futo themselves finally came around and agreed to stop calling their software open source.

      • sith@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        21 days ago

        This license, plus that the app require microphone access, plus all the AI features, make my BS alarm go bzzz.

      • kekmacska@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        21 days ago

        it is, you just can’t understand what open-source means, even though it is in its name

  • potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish
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    22 days ago

    FUTO keyboard no doubt, it’s very modern. It has voice typing and swipe typing which is essential to me. It’s also just a nice typing experience.

    • land@lemmy.ml
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      22 days ago

      I have tried

      • Florisboard
      • Openboard
      • Simple Keyboard
      • Heliboard
      • Ask

      They’re good, but they lack some basic functionality that would deter an average user. Futo keyboard checks all the boxes for me.

    • The Hobbyist@lemmy.zip
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      22 days ago

      Dude, I had been using the default keyboard from GrapheneOS since I couldn’t find a decent keyboard and gave up on swiping all together. I had heard about the futo keyboard but was unaware how mature it is. I installed it and set it up. I am very pleased! It has a lot of settings, and while the swiping isn’t perfect yet, I can actually feel like it’s learning from my usage. Very encouraging and it really brings me joy.

      The Google keyboard was the best for me, but this is really not far behind. Thank you FUTO! Will be donating <3

    • irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      21 days ago

      I’ve been using Heliboard for a while. It does most that gboard does, but the predictions aren’t as good of course.

      • Static_Rocket@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        21 days ago

        Yeah, I’ve been using it for about a year now. It’s a little frustrating that it will learn my misspellings before it suggests a proper replacement, but otherwise I have no complaints. Direct upgrade over the stock AOSP keyboard.

        • JoeyJoeJoeJr@lemmy.ml
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          21 days ago

          I’ve had the same problem with HeliBoard learning garbage. I just changed my settings though, and I think it should help:

          1. Open HeliBoard settings
          2. Open Text correction settings
          3. Scroll all the way to the bottom, and turn off “Add words to personal dictionary”

          If you scroll all the way to the top again, you can manually manage the personal dictionary, including adding words you do want, and deleting any junk that was added by mistake, before switching that setting off.

  • Blastboom Strice@mander.xyzEnglish
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    22 days ago

    Florisboard beta is what I use. Extremely customisable. I think the biggest things that lacks are custom background photo and text-gliding (I ~dont use any of these though).

    I made it almost identical to the gboard theme I was using previously and it’s so cool.

    • technotion@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      21 days ago

      I am a big florisboard fan too, but I can not get autocorrect to work? How did you manage that? Also, I have glide typing, how do you not?

      • Blastboom Strice@mander.xyz
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        21 days ago

        Oh, I don’t use any autocorrect.😅 Does it have one? I know it has autofill, suggestions with dictionaries and spell check, but not sure if it has autocorrect.

        I have all of these disabled (I only have the auto-capitalization after a period and auto period after double space).😄

        Wait, are you on beta? I think they have gliding, but it is only for gestures, not typing.

  • m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    I like Fossify’s, but I won’t recommend it - it has no predictive text and no symbols on its main keyboard, the first which is a huge deal for almost everyone. Not sure if they’re working on those or if it will never get those features, because if it had those two it would be the perfect keyboard because it’s so great in every other sense.