• OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    And the angel of the lord came unto me Snatching me up from my place of slumber And took me on high and higher still Until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own Midwest And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil One thousand nay a million voices full of fear And terror possessed me then And I begged Angel of the Lord what are these tortured screams? And the angel said unto me These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard Tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat Like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!

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      The first time I ever heard this was the night that album released. Lived in a house in Cape Coral Florida with a bandmate, and a few members of another local band as roommates.

      I think the other band’s drummer had gotten it earlier that day. Anyway… later that night, we pretty solidly cooked and listening to it, and when the album ended, no one wanted to get up and start it over or put on something else… so we all just sort of quietly sat there.

      And then, after a looooong silence, we heard this….

      I swear to god- no one moved an inch, no one said a word. We were absolutely floored! What the hell were we hearing! Visions of a white haired Amish preacher, glasses swinging from a chain, as he stomped through a farm plot, yelling at us….

      Needless to say… Minds were blown that night.

      Such a good memory!

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        I was sitting around stoned out of my gourd with a coworker (pizza delivery). We were listening to music with the stereo way up and he played this album. He was watching me when it started, kept a straight face through it, died laughing when it got to rabbits wearing glasses. Damn, that’s a good memory.

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    I’m not even vegan, and I find that this meme both grossly misrepresents what veganism is about, and seems mean spirited.

  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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    eh, veganism doesn’t work for my relatively unique anatomy (if I eat that much fiber I go to the hospital) but were it not for that I’d probably be eating a plant based diet. people tend to know what works for them, and i’m not going to judge them for their dietary choices. Except foie gras.

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    Hawks eat meat cause they have to. WE eat meat cause it’s delicious. The Hawks dies if there are too many Hawks in one feeding ground. The human fucks up his and everyone elses Habitat for centurys cause he’s too lazy to change.

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    Vegans: exist

    People like OP: how dare you make your own choices about your own life that don’t hurt anyone in any way whatsoever

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    Non-vegan, hearing that vegans exist: “Hey, these people are different from me! I hate them!”

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      It’s because the very existence of veganism implies that a) eating animals and the things they produce is harmful and b) you don’t need to eat animals or the things they produce. Omnivores have to argue against one or both of those claims, or acknowledge that they’re doing something wrong, and humans will commit a lot of evils to convince ourselves that we’re not doing anything wrong

      “I’m a good person, good people don’t do bad things, therefore nothing I do is bad”

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        Nah I think most ppl honestly don’t care. We don’t even care about each other as the western world’s entire lifestyle is based on the exploitation of other countries and their ppl.

        You expect someone to suddenly give a damn about a cow 500 miles away?

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    I had thought that veganism was more of a beliefs thing: to not eat products of exploitation, but then I heard the honey thing. The honey thing might be just from an overbearing vegan, or I just don’t know the details, but beekeeping just looks so peaceful

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        AFAIK many (?, please correct) vegans don’t eat honey, and that’s consistent with most of the people I know IRL. It tends to sway between “I try not to eat animal products” and “harvesting honey hurts/exploits bees”, the latter of which may be true for industry-scale honey, but I don’t see why local honey isn’t an option

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          Local honey isn’t an option for largely the same reason that locally sourced human breast milk isn’t. Even if harvesting it doesn’t hurt the ones producing it, a lot of vegans find it conceptually gross anyway

          Edit: a better comparison may be to locally sourced roadkill. You aren’t paying into a system that intentionally runs over squirrels and cats to feed you, but it’s just conceptually bad. I think most vegans would agree that peeling a dead squirrel off of the road and throwing it on the grill is, at the very least, significantly more defensible than buying meat from the store, but they still wouldn’t partake if you offered it to them

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    The redditization of lemmy.world is finally complete. Congratulations, you have ruined the internet.

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    Humans “i dont rape because i respect other humans”. Meanwhile nature …

    And in before “but i need to eat”, you dont need to eat animal products. You can have a healthy life with a vegan diet, arguably an even healthier life. And to go back to my original point, just because you need to cum, doesnt mean that you have the right to cause suffering and death to other sentient beings.

    Just masturbate. Just go vegan.

    • Telling boys to just go masturbate got us the Immorten Joe’s Warboys that are the alt-right, that got Trump into power twice. The boys we told to literally go fuck themselves when they raged over their sexual frustration got us the army of militants and voters behind the white Christian nationalist movement. I was among them in the 1980s, when the society gave a meager few more fucks about them than they do in the twenty-first century.

      I suspect similar movements exist through Europe, which is generally rejecting neoliberalism for fascist-thick movements towards one-party autocracy.

      No, I don’t have a solution, and I’ve been working on it for thirty years. Christianity’s proscription against sex (later limited to non-reproductive sex) figures largely into the problem and it’s served so far as a sufficient distraction from class consciousness and effective response to industry’s effect on climate, and the imminent climate crisis.

      We don’t have a way to let our young guys sow their wild oats, while we’re careening towards multiple great filters we are unprepared to navigate.

      I know: 🧶📌📇

      Maybe even: 🐰🎩🫖☕

      And yet, very few people think about it, still. Those who do ponder the angry-young-men problem discount them as ineligible or feel they are too repugnant to civilized folk to consider. I’ve heard otherwise rational content creators actually say (I paraphrase) these guys were mistreated as kids and are now a societal problem. But they suck, so fuck those guys.

      It might be a failing of the human species itself, that we are compelled to cast our young men out the way gorillas cast out their adolescent females (but welcome strange females), and capitalism intentionally only has limited seats where they can pick themselves up, so the system teaches them from the beginning to be aggressive, ruthless and transactional. Not to get completely nihilist, but maybe our capacity for civilization is limited and we just can’t overcome the paradigms that served us as migratory bands of hunter-gatherers.

      In the meantime, our boys are taught they suck in our Christianity-heavy abstinence-only sex-ed, from which they descend into the incel movement, the manosphere, gamergaters, etc and from there into the transnational white power movement. Our society gave Trump his instant army, and it was ready for him the moment Trump went into politics. And our lack of interest or concern about the new batch of warboys we churn our from the US education system every year, is going to literally kill us all.

      Just go vegan is going to end the same way, especially since the food industry cares not about actual nutrition but profit. Taking a page from Fourth International Posadism, we may have to end capitalism before we can create an ethical food production system (probably incorporating farming invertebrates as well as vegetables), but the problem right now is not what’s the end result ( Fully Automated Gay Space Communism ) but how the heck we get there and not crash and burn with the global ecology.

      Totally open to ideas, but I’m not the guy you have to convince.

      † Not to be confused with Warboyz of W4K fame.

      ‡ Twenty six states mandate abstinence-only sex ed, that stuff that teaches girls they are chewing gum, or someother one-use safety-sealed metaphor, and that boys aren’t allowed to think about sex until they have a salaried job and a ring. Seriously, this is still what is taught.

      Three states mandate comprehensive sex ed: The west coast. And none of them require discussion of consent. (Some teachers include it anyway, as an elective topic). Of course, if we demanded opt-in consent in our sexual relationships, we might demand opt-in sex in our other contracts as well, say our jobs, our devices, our software, etc.

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      For me it’s 70% about trying to do something about climate crisis and 30% wanting to eat healthier

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        Lmao. Look at OPs comments. They actually believe this shit. Based on all the other shitposts they post here and all throughout lemmy, they probably picked it up on reddit or some other trash site, thought it was funny, and came here to share.

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        Vegans have to deal with arguments like this but unironically on the daily. That hits a nerve, wether it’s meant as a shitpost or not. Don’t take it personally.

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            Yeah, it’s totally unreasonable to get tired of hearing the same shitty comments and warmed over “jokes” every day.

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              It’s a shitpost on a shitpost community and they’re in here taking it like it’s a personal attack. They’re clearly the ones who need to calm the fuck down in this scenario lol

              The fact that it’s such an old, overused, and mostly not even correct only enhances its status as a shitpost. That’s what they’re all about

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            Ooh I know that one! They are in a social situation that involves food and the vegan politely declines an animal product. Then they make an anti vegan joke and the vegan politely disagrees. Have been there many times.

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              Really? Because I have seen quite a few times vegan claiming that eating meat is a “murder” when people were trying to enjoy their steaks.

              Here on Lemmy one idiot even claimed that cutting sheep wool or something similar is a sexual assault

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                I’ve seen quite a few times black people have abused welfare programs. Usually they’re posted under conservative accounts, and I get flamed in the comments for pointing out that these are videos posted by someone with an agenda who wants their audience to think certain things about certain groups of people without providing actual data on the subject

                Do you think maybe some of the videos of vegans being douchebags that you’ve seen have been posted by someone with an agenda who wants their audience to think certain things about certain groups of people without providing actual data on the subject?

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                  No doubt about it, but I am yet to see someone who eats meat calling for vegans to be forcibly fed meat - and I have seen vegans saying that eating meat should be forbidden.

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                  Have you seen how wool is actually collected?

                  Yes, in a sheering shed and not on youtube.

                  It is not violent when done correctly, and the best shearers in the industry who can smoothly and quickly sheer a sheep without injury are highly sought after.

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            Have you ever tried to not eat in front of people ever? Turns out it’s pretty hard to do. Sometimes, if you’re nice to people, you get invited to go out to eat to a place. Often those places have no vegan options, and you have to explain why you can’t eat there so people don’t just think you’re blowing them off constantly. We don’t just go around telling everyone we’re vegan like all the hate memes like to say.

            Most vegans I’ve met, myself included, don’t pick fights with people about veganism. We just live by example. It’d be cool if more people went vegan, but arguing with people about doing it doesn’t help. Doing that is like trying to push religion on people or make people experience empathy. It isn’t easy to go vegan (getting easier at least). Food is tied to a lot of people’s culture who have a hard time relearning how to cook/eat and make generational recipes or comfort foods they’ve always eaten.

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              Tell them to find a vegan inclusive place next time and go anyway, the animal is already dead and being a patron this one time to satisfy a friend and have a good time is fine

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                the animal is already dead

                Never heard this one before. I think I’ll use it next time someone says that jerkin it to revenge porn is wrong. I mean, the harm is already done, right?

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                You also have to keep in mind that it sucks to be a vegan sharing a meal with an omni. Even with access to plant-based options, we’re still required to be surrounded by what we see as gore, and people consuming gore.

                You know how smokers can’t smell smoke as well as nonsmokers? When I stopped consuming animals I was surprised to find that all meat, no matter how fresh, smells rotten. And everybody who consumes animals smells faintly like rotting corpses - especially during and right after eating.

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          And it gotten so bad, that some people will accuse you being a vegan if you’re not doing keto/carnivore diet, and thus an extremely militant and unpleasant one.

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        Imagine making this literal exact comment under a post about black people committing a bunch of crime

        “Remember this is a shitpost, and some level of inaccuracy is almost required. It’s the shit part of the post” under a 13/50 meme

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    Except its scientifically proven, that our possibility tonevolve was Not from Hunting, but agricultural Farming. But great Shitpost

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      Modern humans are around 300.000 years old … we’ve only been farming for 10.000 years. Doesn’t quite add up.

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      No it wasn’t.

      Otherwise humans wouldn’t have been smart enough to figure out farming in the first place.

      Also humans were already humans when farming was invented. We’re not pokemon.

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      That’s not how evolution works. Evolution doesn’t have a plan, it doesn’t wait, or speed up. Evolution just happens and our human ancestors would have continued to evolve regardless of agriculture. The path that evolution takes could have been very different but it would have happened. The human species is still evolving and will continue to do so until it’s extinction.

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      It was fire ya dingus.

      Fire allowed us to cook our food, making us die less from pathogens and bacteria AND making more food digestible. ESPECIALLY meat.

      Agriculture was what provided our exponential expansion.

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        Except that all Species of Human Like apes Had that - homo sapiens, homo neanderthalensis, homo erectus etc. What US AS Homo Sapiens Sets US apart is agriculture: https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Courses/College_of_the_Canyons/Anthro_101%3A_Physical_Anthropology/12%3A_Homo_sapiens_our_History_and_our_Future/12.4%3A_Agriculture_and_its_Effect_on_Humans

        It allowed is to stay in one place, developing it instead of living nomadic Livestyles in Hunter & Gatherer Fashion.

        Before insulting someone on a discussion Platform, you should consider the possibility of checking their Claims yourself First.

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          I’m not going to get into a cherry pick our sources argument with you, agriculture is very important to humanity culturally.

          Becoming an agrarian society is not what made us humans though.

          An entry level anthropology course is a weird source to point at though as because I’m making biological and evolutionary argument and you’re referring to culture.

          Regardless anthropological sources hold up the advent of fire and our ability to break free from simple nutrient sources and day time caloric gain AND venturing into colder regions. It allowed the dispersal of humans. Well before agriculture.

          PS: fire more strongly supports the notion that humans were originally largely vegetarian, if you care to have a more salient point.

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    Tfw keeping animals in cages and slaughtering them after 6 months of misery from the comfort of your 21st century life is different from being a feral animal living in the wilderness