This is the third time I’ve seen this exact image used in relation to this. First was a YouTube video, second was a mastodon post, and now this. Not sure who started it, but I feel it’s kinda racist and just shitty. I get the reference, but it’s nothing more than “haha, asian guy that was on computer stuff show”.
It’s not really a cheap knockoff though, it’s a revolution in efficiency. It proved that you don’t need $100m to beat the best models if you show a bit of ingenuity
It’s like building a boat to cross a lake when everyone around you is trying to use their car by adding tires to increase buoyancy (nvidia are the ones selling tires)
Why do you people get offended on our behalf for even the most minuscule thing. What’s racist about it? On the contrary, it’s fucking awesome that some Chinese manage to do this with a meager sum in such time. Why would I want people to use a non Asian person to represent an Asian guy?
It’s because people the meme states that DeepSeek didn’t accomplish anything novel. That the real innovation was done in America with ChatGPT. And there is a narrative that the Chinese are not original, but only really good at copying other people’s work often using inferior parts. That last part, while not explicit in the meme, is in the culture.
My understanding is that what DeepSeek did was novel for the training data it used l. However, there are some experts who question the ability to train the model using the limited budget they claimed and their understanding of the field would require far more processing power. I think there’s a non-racist and racist way of interpreting and answering this question.
Edit: it’s also important that this is a shit post.
It’s because people the meme states that DeepSeek didn’t accomplish anything novel. That the real innovation was done in America with ChatGPT.
You literally said claimed that as what was racist about it…
Again, companies being accused of copying isn’t racist. You made it racist by injecting the countries they were developed in and bringing in stereotypes.
Yes. That are the first two sentences of the paragraph. But the idea is contained in the paragraph which describes the process from those two sentences to racist idea.
I think your other claim is better, that I was digging. But I think in today’s environment racism is rarely explicitly. It is implicit and easily denied. It can also be unintended. And I think those claiming it’s racism can be wrong. And even in failing, can legitimately point to something in the culture that conditions the interpretation of statements like this.
What was more important was describing the process.
It wasn’t just the first few lines, it was the direct answer to the question though, that was my sticking point.
I get how racism can be deep under the surface, like a sort of “shadow racism” but I think assuming there’s racism at play can be damaging as well. I get where you’re coming from, I guess I just don’t agree with the arrived at point.
my taking offense isn’t even because of the race mostly. it’s because they are saying it’s a clone of o1. Of which it is not. That’s some very good development that’s been done and open sourced so anyone can use it for free which is being overshadowed by the fact that it happened in China and not 'murica
This is the third time I’ve seen this exact image used in relation to this. First was a YouTube video, second was a mastodon post, and now this. Not sure who started it, but I feel it’s kinda racist and just shitty. I get the reference, but it’s nothing more than “haha, asian guy that was on computer stuff show”.
His character tried to make cheap Chinese knockoffs of all major platforms and products.
Deep dive is a cheap Chinese knockoff of ChatGPT.
It’s a good joke, Bront
It’s not really a cheap knockoff though, it’s a revolution in efficiency. It proved that you don’t need $100m to beat the best models if you show a bit of ingenuity
It’s like building a boat to cross a lake when everyone around you is trying to use their car by adding tires to increase buoyancy (nvidia are the ones selling tires)
Why do you people get offended on our behalf for even the most minuscule thing. What’s racist about it? On the contrary, it’s fucking awesome that some Chinese manage to do this with a meager sum in such time. Why would I want people to use a non Asian person to represent an Asian guy?
It’s because people the meme states that DeepSeek didn’t accomplish anything novel. That the real innovation was done in America with ChatGPT. And there is a narrative that the Chinese are not original, but only really good at copying other people’s work often using inferior parts. That last part, while not explicit in the meme, is in the culture.
My understanding is that what DeepSeek did was novel for the training data it used l. However, there are some experts who question the ability to train the model using the limited budget they claimed and their understanding of the field would require far more processing power. I think there’s a non-racist and racist way of interpreting and answering this question.
Edit: it’s also important that this is a shit post.
You can decide if this post is racist or not. https://lemmy.ml/post/25316007
Saying company A copied company B isn’t racist. Those clsims are made all the time. This is really digging to make it racist.
That’s not the part that I was claiming was racist.
You said
You literally said claimed that as what was racist about it…
Again, companies being accused of copying isn’t racist. You made it racist by injecting the countries they were developed in and bringing in stereotypes.
Yes. That are the first two sentences of the paragraph. But the idea is contained in the paragraph which describes the process from those two sentences to racist idea.
I think your other claim is better, that I was digging. But I think in today’s environment racism is rarely explicitly. It is implicit and easily denied. It can also be unintended. And I think those claiming it’s racism can be wrong. And even in failing, can legitimately point to something in the culture that conditions the interpretation of statements like this.
What was more important was describing the process.
It wasn’t just the first few lines, it was the direct answer to the question though, that was my sticking point.
I get how racism can be deep under the surface, like a sort of “shadow racism” but I think assuming there’s racism at play can be damaging as well. I get where you’re coming from, I guess I just don’t agree with the arrived at point.
my taking offense isn’t even because of the race mostly. it’s because they are saying it’s a clone of o1. Of which it is not. That’s some very good development that’s been done and open sourced so anyone can use it for free which is being overshadowed by the fact that it happened in China and not 'murica