• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Plenty of good responses. I assume you are foreigner and I will give you one suggestion. Make sure your passport is valid just in case you need to flee the incoming disaster.

  • Yipper46@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Tune it out. Nothing ever changes by a change in political leaders alone. People are just going crazy because the terminally online lost the election.

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      That’s a wild take. Everything is subject to change when you change political leaders. A single person, the president, can’t do THAT much on their own. But when they have a large portion of the government in their pocket and a huge number or rabid fans, then yes. Everything can change.

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        3 months ago

        Well some things might change but I’m just saying people overestimate how much will change.

  • Nougat@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    Pay attention to “events that actually happen” and “things that people in power say.” Pay far less attention to “kvetching and predicting.”

    If you stop paying attention entirely, you’re going to end up with a whole lot of Shocked Pikachu Face in your future.

    • r0ertel@lemmy.world
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      I read something long ago that I can’t find anymore that said something to the extent of, pay attention to the movement of money, troops and people. I struggle to understand what stuff that the news reports on means, so I like the deeper stories that report on an expert’s opinion of what somebody said means or shows like 60 minutes over the Nightly News. I avoid the bloggers and vloggers since they are not experts on the important topics.

    • 667@lemmy.radio
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      3 months ago

      If you stop paying attention entirely

      This is the part which normalization works to accelerate. Every message is crafted to rally supporters and repulse opponents; enough to get one to tune out and stop paying attention. Do it long enough and whatever they want to do will be done without any scrutiny.

      This is one of the reasons the consolidation of mainstream independent media is a serious problem.

  • sumguyonline@lemmy.world
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    You get used to a specific tone, and if you hear that tone, based on previous experience, you recognize it is probably bullshit. Then you start to tune out the bullshit, sometimes you might still miss something important, but that happens anyways. Check out what people are saying, if it’s actually true, you can decide if it actually should be a concern to you as an individual. Don’t believe “immigrants are destroying the country” without working with some as equals at a job. Same with other rage bait.

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      3 months ago

      Not so easy to Ignore what you know.

      Knowledge is power, but ignorance is bliss.

      I follow the news until I can’t take it any more, and take a break until I can again.

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        Yeah, actually sounds like what I do. It can get depressing, but I try not to stay away too long. I don’t want to be blindsided by something that might affect me.

        A good example is when I got rid of cable TV, I didn’t get a lot of local news and wasn’t aware until late that a hurricane was heading my way.

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    3 months ago

    You can tune out the noise. Just keep yourself informed at the minimum so you know what’s happening around you.

  • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’ve literally seeing the rights of myself and other get taken away in the last week. I’m moving cross country to get out of the state I’m currently in because it does not recognize who I am.

    They want to open up people like me to descrimination and hate crimes. I’m wondering what will happen with my job if this stuff keeps happening.

    There are real world consequences to politics and people sticking their heads in the sand is the reason literal fascism is on the rise.

    If you are privileged enough to feel you don’t have to worry about politics that generally means you aren’t the current target.

  • IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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    Removing news from your regular feeds or taking a break from them for a week is chill, everyone should do that here and there. But don’t bury your head in the sand, you should keep an eye on it even if that is only browsing a dedicated news feed every week or two. Ignorance and complacency is how we got Trump 2024 with people actively voting againt themselves.

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    Not sure how you mean “I am in the US” but based on a bunch of assumptions, my advice would be to tune it out as much as possible and focus on being a good person making your friends and famliy happy.

    This trump administration will very likely follow the last in that it will be a storm of incompetence and reversing-of-decisions such that whatever actual evil they are able to implement will show up somewhere you’d likely see it in your day-to-day life.

    You’ll get a lot of stress and anxiety watching the news / social media about it because those things will include all the “might happens” and "said they would"s and so on. Forget that stuff. Just make some good food you like and make someone close to you smile today and that’s the best you can do. (And it’s not bad!)

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    the answer heavily depends.

    Do you want to be politically informed and able to make accurate statements about things that are actively happening? Great, better cut some hours at your job and take up a research position for politics in your spare time.

    Do you want to be politically uninformed and yet still say shit about things you aren’t familiar with, haven’t researched and do not understand? Great, take more hours at your job, make shit up, listen to what weird internet people who are totally trust worthy and not running a grift at all (trust me bro) are saying online because it makes you feel better about yourself.

    Do you want neither of these? Being uninformed is perfectly ok and reasonable, if you approach it with the correct attitude, you cannot hold an opinion on something you are not familiar with, it’s as simple as that. Refer to science and the establishment for most things, because, after all, they haven’t fucking exploded and killed everyone yet, so they must be doing something right.

    TL;DR this is my personal opinion, informed by years of consuming political content, and my general interest in sociology and psychology so take this with the correct amount of concern. I would ignore pretty much anything and everything coming from the political right, it’s either bullshit, a lie, or AI generated these days. Very, very rarely do they actually manage to tell the whole truth.

    I would also advise distantly observing the far left, as they tend to do nothing more than yelling, screaming, and bemoaning inconveniences. The general left is a bit better about this. But they also have the “we dont really do anything” problem also

    Otherwise, be very careful, be extremely critical of the content/media you consume, and be sure to establish your own independent worldview and political beliefs, you don’t have to have identical beliefs to me, or anybody else here, and that’s the beauty of modern western politics. Or maybe find some organizations around you that you can get directly involved in, to make a difference in the lives of people around you.

    Yelling at people about things on the internet is one of the least effective ways of doing anything. It’s a great platform for satire, since that’s what satire thrives on, but otherwise, do something else, it’s more productive that way. You need a truly incredible reach to be able to make a difference online.

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      3 months ago

      Excellent response.

      I’m trying to limit myself to watching for actual threats to my family. Basically a couple of things. Watching for the same stuff that tipped us off on COVID and watching for camps actually being setup on US soil.

      Trying to ignore all the ragebait and most of the news. I think I see manipulation similar to what I saw on the first trump election now targeted left. So, pants on head crazy.

      Heads down and try to only pay attention to the important stuff.

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        I imagine you’ve seen the articles about the federal government buying land in NJ and TX for camps? That was happening before 1/20. Almost immediately after the election that shit started.

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          I have heard about land being volunteered for use in Texas as a political stunt, have not seen anything about land being purchased for that purpose.

  • Norgoroth@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Our political situation is currently quite extreme, read up on fascism specifically the “legal stage” of fascism

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    Deportations have happened under other presidents as well, so from what I can tell this is all being covered in great detail as part of some media campaign.

    https://www.cato.org/blog/deportation-rates-historical-perspective

    More info https://living.alot.com/entertainment/45-weirdest-presidential-facts--17063?s=11&isLong=0&isVertical=1

    The anti-DEI motivation seems thoughtless at first, but then when you look at it really it seems the politicians don’t like the CRT and Neo-Marxist ideology associated with DEI. Makes sense, America has never been about Marxism or Socialism.

    https://newdiscourses.com/2023/04/marxist-roots-of-dei-workshop-all-sessions/

    I mean, people should have some resource for legal immigration, but a nation is allowed sovereign control over their immigration policies.

    So, the whole reaction on the left seems a tad alarmist maybe, but as others have said keep paying attn but don’t let it consume your life or senses.

    • TheBeege@lemmy.world
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      You assume the actors in the system act in good faith and that the system’s incentives are well designed. It is not.

      What kinds of people want to join the organization responsible for keeping foreigners out? How many of those groups are racists that don’t actually care about the citizenship part? How do you measure the success of this organization?

      When you start asking these kinds of questions, you start to see the cracks. Additionally, when you look at US immigration policies compared to other developed countries, they’re quite harsh. I emigrated to Korea. It’s quite easy if I have a college education and some work experience. I benefit Korea’s economy. My Korean friends who want to go to the US have a totally different experience.

      Additionally, you need to look at the US’s history with regards to race. See the Japanese internment camps of WW2 or the fire bombing of Tulsa, OK. We don’t necessarily distinguish between actual citizens and foreigners.

      You can also look at how illegal immigration is managed in the US. Look at Ron DeSantis in Florida. He spooked illegal immigrants in Florida with his crackdown on immigration. The orange farmers started panicking because there were no workers. The oranges were rotting. Did DeSantis prop up the orange industry and encourage them to hire Americans? The good faith act? Fuck no! He rolled back the crackdown, and the illegal immigrants continued to be used for basically slave labor. America doesn’t want legal immigration. They just want a group with no rights to beat the shit out of when they’re feeling bad and to use for labor that citizens don’t want to do.

      Your argument of people behaving in good faith with regards to immigration doesn’t have a lot of evidence to support it when looking at history.

      The right thing to do would be to pursue immigration reform first, give time for current illegal immigrants to become legal, crackdown on the employers of illegal immigrants, and then start enforcing immigration law more strongly. But surprise! It ain’t happening.

      Of course, my comment assumes you’re trying to argue in good faith, which also may be naive. Let’s see

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        Please, how many non-Korean politicians are in their congress? Korea is also so ethnically homogeneous, so it’s not even fair to ask that question. I care about civil rights and liberties of minorities, my problem is that America is constantly getting fucked by one type of propaganda or another because it has an actual democracy (in at least the blue and purple states).

        Yes, some American southern states actually do systemic racism type things, that’s undeniable if you objectively look at their policies. America, however, is not a monolith.

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        lol how? Anti-immigration is not inherently racism. All countries have some sort of immigration control.

        Edit forget it, i don’t want to want to seem oblivious to the obvious human rights issues here. People deserve legal recourse to immigration, enough said.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    If you haven’t noticed that a lot of things in your life are political, I feel sorry for your lack of grasp on reality. The taxes you pay are political. The laws you have to follow are political. Decisions on how your kids go to school are political. How you work (you payment, your job- and personal safety) - guess what, it’s political. If the CDC will protect you against the next pandemic, if the FDA will protect you against being poisoned - it is all political.

    Tune out reality at your own risk. You should have paid attention to this ages ago.