• chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It’s half that distance to the Faroe Islands, meaning NATO only has to control half that distance, which is well within the range of land-based anti-ship defenses.

    Whereas free Russian movement along Greenland’s coast would be protected if it was under the control of a Putin-friendly US. They’d be even safer going through Bafin Bay to the West of Greenland. Od course that would only happen if Canada also left NATO.

    And on a completely unrelated note, Trump is also trying to get Canada to become a US territory.

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      Whereas free Russian movement along Greenland’s coast would be protected if it was under the control of a Putin-friendly US

      First, you need to stop with Putin friendly US fantasies. But doing so would make Putin friend EU much faster. The reason to for a Putin friendly US is entirely to diminish/colonize Europe even more than Biden did.

      A Putin friendly US still doesn’t need Greenland. EU oppression exists without Putin friendliness. EU is not to be permitted to block Russian trade with US, with US-Russia alliance. Greenland for US has absolutely zero benefits to Russia in a normal world. Only to better threaten EU with missiles and aircraft.

      The US simply wants to move away from wars it cannot win, towards easy wars. Including vast gains on an already subservient EU. Rather than framing the world in Putin Derangement Syndrome, EU needs to focus on the direct enemy actions of US towards it. Those who advocate for increased subjugation as desperate measures to appease an enemy should be shut down. Russia never wanted to be EU’s enemy, and EU needs to wake up as to who its real enemies are.

      Trump is also trying to get Canada to become a US territory.

      Directly hateful to Canada. Picking a war US can win without fighting. Europe is next. You need to stop right there instead of framing your thinking around the idiocy of escalating war on Russia or China or Iran as “any part whatsoever towards a solution that frees you from US aggression”.

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        Russia has invaded 2 separate soverign states in Europe for the purpose of annexation into Russia within a 15-year span. The only thing stopping them from pulling more of that bullshit is NATO. Dismantling NATO - an alliance composed specifically to stop Russian annexation of neighbor states - is Putin’s number 1 international goal.

        Trump is his number 1 tool in that mission right now.

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          Not sure what your other country reference is, but all lies that US did not capture Ukraine in coup to provoke this war that it wants is disinformation. US wanted this war, and Russia never did. That Trump doesn’t want to continue the war because it is losing is neither a good reason to want to continue it yourself, to imagine that US is now pro Russia, or that you must beg US to stay your “friend”.

          NATO - an alliance composed specifically to stop Russian annexation of neighbor states

          There is no such NATO mission. Only to protect alliance members. That it has unofficially become an antagonist evil with desires to diminish Russia, does not make that its mission. Coups over former CIS states was never mission. Just demonism.

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            Are you really pretending Russia didn’t invade Georgia?

            It’s literally an alliance formed during the Cold War to prevent Russian expansion. Otherwise, Russia would have been invited to join NATO decades ago.

            And to say ownership of the most-strategically located nation in the North Atlantic is unimportant to the North Atlantic Treaty is laughable. But you clearly know all of this. You’re trying to influence others to believe Russian propaganda.

            Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia invaded Georgia. Russia invaded Afghanistan.

            You know who they haven’t invaded they’d lusted after for decades? Turkey. But Turkey is a NATO member, so Russia can’t do shit without.

            In fact, there’s a wall between Russia and the West of Europe formed by states that have not been invaded by Russia in the last 60 years, and that wall is comprised almost entirely of NATO members.

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              Russia was invited by Afghanistan official government to help with control over country.

              Georgia, though not anywhere close to Ukrainian nazi vermin, was preventing regions seeking autonomy that needed Russian assistance. Still, pig fuckers aspiring to NATO government, acting to destabilize their own country to blame it on Russia reaction playbook. NATO pigfilth this year objected to Georgia democracy that kept out their bribery and corruption. Dangling NATO and EU membership to countries so that they destroy themselves is not done because of love for any people there, and needs not being taken seriously.

              In fact, there’s a wall between Russia and the West of Europe formed by states that have not been invaded by Russia in the last 60 years, and that wall is comprised almost entirely of NATO members.

              Yes, and that expansion acts as fanatical rabid tips of the spear to diminish and threaten Russia. For US favour. In an able minded EU, with Trump/US threatening it, they would realize how pathetically stupid they have acted all along, and that they need better and more logical friends in the world.

              And to say ownership of the most-strategically located nation in the North Atlantic is unimportant to the North Atlantic Treaty is laughable. But you clearly know all of this. You’re trying to influence others to believe Russian propaganda.

              Whatever stupidity motivates you to hate Russia, there is zero fucking relevance to Greenland being US vs NATO controlled for Russia. Neither provides a missile path towards US, or other NATO member for that matter. There is zero shipping lane access granted. Being extremely far away, there is no economic development opportunity that would be far better exploited by countries closer to Greenland. THE ONLY FUCKING PURPOSE OF US CONTROL OVER GREENLAND, away from NATO control, is for US to threaten Europe.

              The only propaganda possible is for idiots to consider the distraction that Russia is part of this plan, and then, as a level of imbecility that was beyond previous universal contemplation, a need to give Trump everything the US empire might have ever hoped for, to help continue EU suicide in vilifying Russia.

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                You called the citizens of the invaded country vermin. Fuck you and your propaganda.

                But I truly do hope your abject failure to be seen as anything other than Kremilin propaganda doesn’t result in your defenestration. Stay safe.