• Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    one will try his most to destroy any confidence

    Talking about Biden? You know, the one currently supporting a genocide? I’d think that counts as trying “his most to destroy any confidence”

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      9 months ago

      Biden never implied there was a chance the US would abandon its NATO allies in case of a war, Trump did.

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        9 months ago

        Pro-Trump argument? Didn’t expect that here. Regardless, it’d be great if the US actually let NATO destroy itself and limit their ability to commit their imperialism in the middle-east (and across the world), but that’s just rhetoric to get Russia to ally with the US against China; like the US allied with China against the USSR in the Cold War.

        Unfortunately the US would never truly antagonize NATO; Trump would just be assassinated and replaced like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA, not that Trump would actually go through with it. He isn’t any better than Biden.

        The only way the US would improve is if a leftist org took power over this thinly-veiled imperialist oligarch altogether from outside its political system which is designed to prevent leftward movement in the first place.

        Also uh, I don’t think US’s ongoing genocide victims care about that.

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          Since when did the CIA assassinate white conservative leaders? What a delusional comment. Most of the people in the CIA are Trump cultists. They won’t do shit to Trump no matter what decisions he makes. He already spent his last term undermining nato and other institutions, and nothing happened to him.

          Always have to laugh at the tankies who act like Russia and China are the good guys somehow, in spite of all their very obvious imperialism and despotism. The US Russia and China are all the same thing, a bunch of rich fucks looking out for themselves.

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            Since when did the CIA assassinate white conservative leaders?

            They would if they threatened the imperial core’s ability to commit their imperialism.

            The US Russia and China are all the same thing

            What an obnoxious statement lol. Only the US (and its allies) are built from centuries of capitalist colonialism, and are greatly benefiting from ongoing neocolonialism of those same former colonies through the IMF and World Bank. They are also the ones waging countless wars across the middle east, coup’ing Africa’s governments, and keeping them unstable and unable to unite and stand on their own.

            China, and even modern capitalist Russia, for all their flaws, are not even comparable to the sheer amount of suffering the US has inflicted, and continues to do so. There’s a reason songs like this are common across the developing world. No one outside the imperial core sees China or Russia as equivalent to the US, for good reason.

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          9 months ago

          I don’t have to destroy your comment. Everyone with half a brain already knows that you‘re talking bullshit.

          Arguing with people like you is just a waste of time.

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              9 months ago

              Yeah, sorry. Everyone who thinks Trump and Biden are the same, has no political education and or is blinded by ideology. And has, simply put no eyes in his head.

              You’re an idiot. And you’re little downvote brigade changes nothing about that.

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                  9 months ago

                  Congratulations. You have simplified complex politics too such a degree that it fits in your narrative. First off, I don’t vote in this case, because I’m not American. Second, I still would vote for the person who didn’t try a fucking insurrection.

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                    9 months ago

                    …but would vote for someone committing a genocide? I think your balance is a bit off there

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                    9 months ago

                    No worries, not my country either so I honestly don’t know what I’d do in that situation. Third party probably.

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      9 months ago

      germany is doing the same. so i guess confidence isn’t being destroyed between those two. but is was talking about the american isolationist trump.