Why are the journalist bending over to Musk?
Because the left never does anything. They’ll whine and say this is unfair not how it’s supposed to be, that’s illegal. And that is as far as it goes. The right does shit and here we are. Only going to get worse and anyone who says ohbits only 4 years sure maybe till the next one.
This is accurate. The people downvoting instead of explaining anything are exactly who they’re talking about. Get off your asses!
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(IMO) Because many people don’t want a solution to the things that bother them. People need a villian regardless of how they have to manipulate their own narrative
There was a lot more demonstrations and outrage during Trump’s first term. I think now everyone is just exhausted and over it. Dems got beaten pretty bad in the election, and are probably very demoralized after this outcome. Maybe it will add up to a landslide in the next senate/congress election, maybe not.
They weren’t beaten badly, it was barely a 1.5% margin. Electoral votes….different story. But even then, this illustrates that a few more votes in key states would have had a drastically different outcome.
Thats still beaten badly. The election is entirely about winning electoral votes, and the dems failed that. They didn’t win votes in the right places and lost votes compared to the last election.
The entire presidential election campaign is always about winning electoral votes and that means winning votes in swing states.
I find this line of thinking so defeatist. Yes, we all know the electoral college is the system, but all also know it’s a sham and almost every honest person hates it because it undermines the idea of democracy. Imo the day people stop thinking the popular vote is what should count is the day we all collectively gave up on democracy.
It’s truth, though. I don’t like it either, but we know the popular vote is currently meaningless. I’ll champion any cause that wants to change that, but there’s zero chance of that happening while the GOP controls the house, the senate, the courts, and the presidency.
Maybe next time they’ll lose by even less! That’s about the best progress I can hope for in this country in my lifetime.
Definitely. This is what beaten badly looks like:
I think they mean “beaten badly” as in “lost control of all three branches of government” not so much “Trump landslide vote.”
The person you responded to even said “Dems got beaten pretty bad” not “Harris got beaten pretty bad.”
By the metric of losing the house, losing the senate, losing the judiciary, and losing the presidency is a pretty deep blow.
I didn’t think “Dems got beaten pretty bad in the election” was open to mean all elections.
There was only one, there are more seats than just the president up for vote on election day.
Ok, you’re right in this sense. However, I meant beaten badly in the sense of expectations vs. reality. If you followed any media, it was supposed to be a slight edge for Kamala, or at least a good chance for an upset. In the end the R’s got president, senate and congress. And the outcome was clear after the first few hours, unlike something like Gore vs. Bush.
I agree. I certainly felt the outcome was going to be much different.
There were more variables than just Trump.
COVID and all the conditions it created.
Depends on how badly he fucks up the country.
We won’t get legit progressive reform until there is another depression or world war.
Why are the journalist bending over to Musk?
Because performative protest like wearing pussy hats isn’t actually as effective as general strikes or direct action.
The McResistance fades because that’s all it ever was.
God all the fucking rich elite throwing literally abortion themed parties around the DNC meeting before the election was so fucking tone deaf and the exact kind of thing people will use against the party in an election and yet they still went through with it because performance is all that they know.
Yes. Democractic establishment throws elections away rather than tries to win them. And frankly the professional elite base of the party is more than happy with it and thinks if you disagree with them you’re an uneducated sexist/racist.
It’s also far less effective than building a strong politician coalition, as Trump and his supports did.
Frankly if I went to a MAGA rally I’d probably feel more accepted and welcomed than I by my fellow Democratic voters. And this is why Trump got so many votes this time. His supporters are enthusiastic, energized, and generally welcome to anyone who is angry and upset. Democrats kept chiding the voters they should be so lucky to have a black female president in such a great economy and if you weren’t supporting them you were a bad person.
Frankly as a white guy from a working-class background, all the D have done for me is alienate me for 20+ years now. And tell me that I should vote for them anyway.
Ok, you’re right in this sense. However, I meant beaten badly in the sense of expectations vs. reality. If you followed any media, it was supposed to be a slight edge for Kamala, or at least a good chance for an upset. In the end the R’s got president, senate and congress. And the outcome was clear after the first few hours, unlike something like Gore vs. Bush.
To what end? People were warned. People lived through 4 years of this. People remember the shortages and inept handling og COVID. People voted for this.
Should I explain why having a totalitarian govt with the modern technologies is a VERY bad idea?
i think their point might have been -
you don’t have to, enough of this country either heard it and didn’t care, or just doesn’t care
leading a horse to water and all that, maybe?
Not to me, and not to them either. I already know, and Trump supports don’t care. These people don’t read history and were brought up through a poor quality education system that told them the US was the greatest nation on earth and we never did anything bad, and if we did, well, it worked out in the end didn’t it?
Those who read history are doomed to watch those who don’t read history repeat it.
Would rioting actually make anything better? Seems like people have more to lose by rioting than they do by posting a mean tweet
Yes I love how America didn’t have a war of independence or a civil war. And it was all handled by paperwork. Ah what good times filing notiferizing it was crazy times
Would rioting actually make anything better?
Yes I love how America didn’t have a war of independence or a civil war.
Why would we have a war over the elected president…holding office? Dems need to do better and win the next election, not start a civil war.
I agree, people disagree, seriously, I don’t care about the tweering stuff, but, say I gather 20-50 people and hold a demonstration at what, city hall? State Capitol? My local, and stae government wont change. So what am I supposed to do? go to a republican state and cause aimless mayhem? Am I supposed to take a semester off from college and work with the funds I do not have to travel to D.C. and what call for him to step down? His impeachment? Better accountability? He wont, his party wont.
What’s needed is not a protests, not a demonstration, not even a riot could seemingly change this. Realistically it would need to be a revolution. and Realistically people living paycheck to paycheck are not highly motivated to throw away thier life so they can risk thier life to start a “revolution”
Food is quickly becoming out of reach of many Americans. The conditions are becoming ripe for revolution. It’s no surprise cop cities are popping up all over the country.
Food is quickly becoming out of reach of many Americans.
I’m not aware of any Americans worried their children will starve to death. Various housing and food assistance programs exist. Such apocalyptic language simply does not ring true.
Because rules and decorum are what “good people” think is most important to protect rather than people and actual morals.
Funny thing about most leftist activist groups is they won’t take a hard stance because they are afraid it will dry up the money spigot by ‘looking bad’.
And of course the virtue signalling and purity tests that inevitable result in them become taking fascist stances towards groups they don’t like.
Because for many people, political unrest is the problem they’re trying to avoid, and their problem with the new administration is that it is a catalyst for unrest.
Someone mad that our 45/7th President upsets the applecart isn’t going to go flip an applecart themselves in protest.
British and France tried to appease Hitler for peace sake too during ww2, and look where it got them. You shouldn’t sacrifice freedom and rights for peace
I’m not saying it’s right, I’m saying it’s happening.
peace without justice isn’t peace. justice without peace isn’t justice.
appeasement doesn’t work because you attempt to trade justice for peace, but that just erodes your peace. the justice system claims to provide us justice, but violence is sown all throughout it, meaning it cannot give us justice as true justice is restoration from this system
A lot of people are pretty pissed at the dems for not doing enough too. They’re so obsessed with being a party for everyone that they’ve become a party for no one, theres a huge divide between what people want and what they’re doing. They need to unify, organize and take some stances even if it pisses some people off. I think a lot of people are just demoralized and “politically homeless” as in they just don’t identify with either party so what is the point? What would be cool is if a bunch of randoms ran third party on their own ideas and formed a coalition but good luck with that
because the police has army grade weapons and vehicles and will wreck dissidents like its Tien An Men 2.0
Deomcrats have the center while republicans have the far right and to more than half a degree the far left (granted the more than are the true crazies who are so far left they go right and then the fifty is just the virtual effect of if I can’t have far left I will accept far right over center). The center wants a functioning government that runs by the rules set down by the consitution. Unlike some on the right who feels the constitution is frozen at the way society was at its birth the center looks for change by using the mechanisms of change put into the government. So many will protest but rightly view rioting as just hurting the common man. Musk and friends don’t live in neighborhoods that have ever been burned down by a riot. Its never even reached their gates. This is why luigi had such broad appeal. It was an action that did not hurt any innocents.
You want the real answer?
Inertia.
Think about the scene in Fight Club where the homework is to go out and start a fight. It isn’t easy. Most people have never hit another person their entire lives. Men who punch walls or tear their shirts off to throw down with someone over perceived offenses are not the normal. That’s tail of the bell curve behavior. If it wasn’t, people would be fighting in parking lots everywhere you go.
The inertia of most peoples lives is to avoid conflict. This is why only a handful of people in any building you happen to be standing in are suited to leadership roles.
Now, if you can get one of those guys in the right conditions to stir up a mob hive mind then the game changes. Until then, most people will be propelled forward by inertia and conflict avoidance.
This is 100% correct.
Also don’t discount the economic system working as intended. If I get off the hamster wheel to “riot,” my family quickly looses basic necessities.
Once my best alternative to a negotiated resolution moves off that reality (meaning keep my head down and my family will get through this) more options become available. The system is designed to keep a critical majority on the wheel.
This is exactly the reason these Natalists are “pro-forced-birth”. Childless adults are a threat because they don’t have to think about their minor dependents before revolting. They want everyone tied down with families so we can’t even consider getting off the wheel.
Because liberals are cowards.
That’s the real answer.
I think another point is hope, even if people start large protests, riots, etc. What can it achieve, who will achieve it? Short of a full revolution, will anything have an effect?
Trump wont step down even if the country is alight, with republicans in power in senate they wont impeach or muzzle trump.
Any sort of protests needs ro have a goal, something you can imagine it will achieve. If you cant picture anything postive coming from it, why would you want to?
This is it for me. I just don’t see an outcome where politicians respond to protests in any way other than doubling down and arresting them.
