It was a got damn stunt, offc

  • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
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    1 month ago

    I bet the new algorithm will be pushing push far right content to everyone just like Twitter and Meta, this was a stunt to silence the leftists.

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    I’m way more interested in the reactions of Google, Apple, Oracle, and the dozens of other corporations ByteDance depends on.

    The “90-day extension” Trump keeps talking about has no basis in law except to conclude an in-process divestment, which currently doesn’t exist. He can order the law not to be enforced, but you’re still breaking the law. It’ll interesting to see if those companies are willing to along with an executive order their counsel knows is illegal or are willing to knowingly break the law under the promise they won’t be prosecuted (for now).

    edit: IANAL

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      has no basis in law

      Wikipedia says, with a couple references:

      The president may grant a one-time extension of the divestiture deadline by as long as 90 days if a path to a qualified divestiture has been identified, “significant” progress has been made to executing the divestiture, and legally binding agreements for facilitating the divestiture are in place.

      So I think he can do it.

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        as long as 90 days if a path to a qualified divestiture has been identified, “significant” progress has been made to executing the divestiture, and legally binding agreements for facilitating the divestiture are in place.

        My point is that no path has been identified, no progress has been made, and nothing is in place.

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          Point taken, but I’m just going to presume that all that will be declared satisfied in the EO in some token form or another.

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      I mean, they can get away with it. They own the government, if the next president threw a fit about them going along with something that they knew was illegal because Trump was OK with it, do you think their lawyers wouldn’t be able to make it go away for a meager fine that’s 0.001% of their annual revenue?

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    This is more like, yet another PR flattery stunt, that Trump enjoyed in his first term too. Unclear that it means Tik Tok is going to help him get a 3rd term, or censor criticism of him.

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      1 month ago

      Can you walk me through that? You think that Trump’s team coordinated with Biden to make him sign the ban for Trump’s benefit?

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        Do you not remember Trump being the driving force of banning it on his first term?

        It the fact he is requiring them to give over a 50% stake of the company for unnamed us owners?

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          Yes, I remember that. The Israeli lobby has been pushing both parties to do it.

          But how is the Trump team responsible for the Biden team following through and actually doing it?

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            Pre-election, it was a concern for all lawmakers that IDF soldiers showing off their genocide, or Palestinian sympathizers angry about genocide should not be able to embarass the US to young people. Congress voted to “force sale” of TikTok, and Biden signed law many months ago. Minuchin/Zionist groups offered to buy Tik Tok without the algorithm just so they could fully complete the zionist monopoly of news/media through censorship power. After the election, zionist supremacism media exposure doesn’t matter anymore. US/Israel gets to do what they want to do, and explicit Trump/GOP supporters do not hand wring over Islamophobia.

            Biden did say after SCC ruling, that he would not enforce anything, and Apple/Google could have avoided removing from app stores. But Tik Tok went dark anyway, with specific message, imploring glorious new leader’s “progressiveness” on not hating Americans for the complete BS that was the ban fiasco. Even if bipartisan zionist congress voted for ban, with explicit justification that Israel needs to be given a better image to young people, it is flattery to Trump to make this all balmed on dark Brandon.

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                Tik Tok is just flattering Trump by saying he will save the US from Biden. The SCC case decided just last Friday, with Biden promissing not to enforce it, were events that unfolded by their own inertia. Tik Tok users by definition not wanting the ban, is the political probletunity that Tik Tok can deliver to Trump as a win for him, through flattery. It’s only an error, with no political gains, after election is decided to zionist glee.

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                  All Trump’s order does is protect TikTok from the fines and liability. If Biden didn’t intend to enforce, he could’ve done the same. He didn’t.

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      As long as he can make money off of tiktok (either through videos or bribes) he’ll keep extending it.

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      Or Trump keeps extending it or the newly formed Congress rolls back the law or the corrupt Supreme Court changes its mind or or or.

      They entire US government is a game of oligarchic Calvinball.

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        Tomorrow Trump becomes the commander in cheif of the executive branch, the branch explicitly in charge of enforcing the law. The concept of salutary neglect is not new to America, and I don’t think much could stop him if he decided to simply not enforce the law as written. As you point out, it would not be the first time the country played by it’s own rules made up on the spot.

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      Uhhh, Trump is literally the executive.

      He just commands the FCC or other authorities to ignore TikTok. He can extend this ban evasion for all 4 years if he wants.

      Congress and Supreme Court do not control the executive powers. The President does.

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    Ah you pussies. Come on, show them you’re serious. Go dark again. Show them you really mean it and do the rest of the territories too. Forever.

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    Note that the law does not prohibit TikTok from operating. It prohibits companies like Google and Apple from distributing it, and according to this article, they are in fact not distributing it.

    Even as TikTok was flickering back on, it remained unavailable for download in Apple and Google’s app stores.

    TikTok shut off voluntarily and that appears to have been an excellent PR move, but we won’t know for certain until Trump does or doesn’t do something about it in the next few days.

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      Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok).

      The “providing internet hosting services” seems like it could be an issue there

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      1 month ago

      It was a publicity stunt. That’s manipulative as fuck. You can add them to the list of businesses in Trump’s pocket.

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      TikTok may trust Trump but Apple and Google are much better off acting like the law is in force and could be used against them.

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        TikTok also was and still is acting like the law is in force - the law does not require it to shut off. They aren’t taking any legal risk.

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    The fix is in, and TikTok is now just another implement in Trump and Elon’s disinformation machine. Crazy times, our country is literally being run by the top social media platforms.

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    I dunno if app stores are gonna bring it back though.

    The law stipulates like, ridiculously massive (seriously like $5k PER USER) fines for hosting it. I dunno if a legally-dubious pinky promise from Trump will be enough for them.

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      That’s only really a problem for iOS users though. For Android users, you can just load the APK onto the phone and go.