• narwhal@mander.xyz
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    9 months ago

    Don’t listen to them. First thing putin asked was “do you want a talk show or a serious conversation?” You don’t need to agree with him but the whole interview was a reasonable and civilized attempt to show the russian perspective to western audiences.

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      9 months ago

      Except for the fact that he’s making a lot of shit up, I’m from eastern europe and none of his stories about Poland, Lithuania and Kievan Rus were accurate at all.

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        Also Wonder if he lost a word about the Kievan Rus’ which would give Ukraine a stronger claim on russian territory than what Russia claims for Ukraine belonging to it. Not that you should go there but that whole line of arguing doesn’t even work for itself

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          Of course he did not. That’s why they removed the word Kievan from that term in History textbooks, it’s now just Rus, no Kiev

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        9 months ago

        Even if they were true, his point is that “we used to own Ukraine so we’re going to kill people until we do again”

        You know, like fascists do.

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        I believe that he believes in what he’s saying. He’s been talking and writing articles about this for years. He’s that out of touch with reality. Remember, he doesn’t even use internet.

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          Putin is the invader if he leaves the war ends. What more do you need to hear from the guy

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          9 months ago

          What he has to say is that Ukraine should be destroyed and ethnically cleansed. Why on earth would you want to hear more of what he has to say?

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          Nah.

          You don’t need to do that with someone like Putin. You’re basically saying you’re cool just listening to this generations Hitler and taking him at face value.

          That makes you an idiot, a piece of shit, a Russian sympathizer/asset, or likely, all three. But you’re definitely not a person who should be listened to or followed in any way. The entire point of your posting that is to try and create the illusion that Russia isn’t the bad guy here.

          So, and I mean this sincerely, go fuck yourself.

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            You accuse someone of all sorts of things, and never give them a fair chance to defend themselves through dialog. Tell me again how this is a fair aproach. Sounds like you just want to shut down someone for fear of them being right and you wrong.

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            Friend, this is not the way to change minds. It is possible this person merely wishes to verify or discredit the opinions and hot takes by consuming the primary source. Watching a single interview isn’t necessarily a slippery slope. In fact, given the opportunity to do so, they might come to the same conclusions as you regarding Putin. Now though, whether they watch it or not, you’ve represented us (the folks that agree this war is unjustifiable) in a way that indicates we’re completely closed off to reason.

            Edit: I didn’t notice this was the same commenter who said:

            Don’t listen to them. First thing putin asked was “do you want a talk show or a serious conversation?” You don’t need to agree with him but the whole interview was a reasonable and civilized attempt to show the russian perspective to western audiences.

            I don’t totally agree with this take, I think this interview was more an attempt to present to the more gullible and easy-to-sway westerners (Tucker Carlson’s base) of Putin’s extremely outdated and downright mideval philosophy regarding justifications for war in the modern era.

            I think my point still stands though: “Don’t feed the trolls.” Telling them to fuck off plays right into their hands. I don’t want to make any assumptions about this commenter’s intentions, but if they are indeed trolling, making you say something reactionary was likely their intent.