still not a good look when your selling point was being outside of 5/9/14 eyes and you’re cozying up to the government of objectively the worst country, privacywise
They give you poorly disguised ads that you can’t unsubscribe from in the form of a “news letter”. These appear as emails in your inbox with special styling that sticks out. They’ve recently started pushing new features in the Calendar that you need to be the higher paying tier to use, but they still have special styling to make them stand out. If you try to use them, you get a huge popup saying you need to upgrade. They’ve been removing features from the lower tiers and demand you upgrade to keep using it.
Every time I open my inbox, I got a new notification about either upgrading to a paid tier, or the exact same thing but disguised as a feature announcement.
If you’re looking for a new home, Disroot has free email services with a one-time payment if you want a custom domain attached. I’m just giving them the money I used to give Tuta every month. I don’t want to sound like a shill, so I’ll keep it short: I believe in Disroot far more than I ever did Tuta because Tuta was a business and Disroot is a movement. Disroot isn’t in a position where a fat cat investor is gonna start squeezing them for a return. Their last finance report also looked pretty good.
I’m tempted, but Disroot has two things that will probably keep me away, unfortunately.
Email is stored unencrypted on their servers
The site is associated with political activism
There are technical reasons for #1 being true (and ultimately, even if they encrypted the email, I would have to trust them anyway) but this opens extra venues for exploitation. Coupled with #2, the site may be targeted by activist groups who don’t like the politics associated with them, or participants on the service might be automatically associated with it. Personally, either of these issues on their own tends to be enough for me to avoid a service. I respect Disroot but it’s probably not for me.
#2 is fair, but I really don’t see any point in encrypting emails at rest when they by design are going to third parties who can do whatever they want with it. I don’t trust emails with sensitive information, so that’s not a problem for me. I wouldn’t have email if that was an option.
Can you elaborate on what software or solution would allow someone to host an encrypted email server? Would outgoing messages be encrypted or just encrypted at rest? What about if you also had your family member on the same setup and you wrote to each other, would it be encrypted?
Makes me feel a lot less confident about having a protonmail account. Best alternatives for privacy?
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Still a decision maker and able to convince other members though.
still not a good look when your selling point was being outside of 5/9/14 eyes and you’re cozying up to the government of objectively the worst country, privacywise
Thank you.
Tuta?
Enshittifying
How?
They give you poorly disguised ads that you can’t unsubscribe from in the form of a “news letter”. These appear as emails in your inbox with special styling that sticks out. They’ve recently started pushing new features in the Calendar that you need to be the higher paying tier to use, but they still have special styling to make them stand out. If you try to use them, you get a huge popup saying you need to upgrade. They’ve been removing features from the lower tiers and demand you upgrade to keep using it.
Every time I open my inbox, I got a new notification about either upgrading to a paid tier, or the exact same thing but disguised as a feature announcement.
If you’re looking for a new home, Disroot has free email services with a one-time payment if you want a custom domain attached. I’m just giving them the money I used to give Tuta every month. I don’t want to sound like a shill, so I’ll keep it short: I believe in Disroot far more than I ever did Tuta because Tuta was a business and Disroot is a movement. Disroot isn’t in a position where a fat cat investor is gonna start squeezing them for a return. Their last finance report also looked pretty good.
I’m tempted, but Disroot has two things that will probably keep me away, unfortunately.
There are technical reasons for #1 being true (and ultimately, even if they encrypted the email, I would have to trust them anyway) but this opens extra venues for exploitation. Coupled with #2, the site may be targeted by activist groups who don’t like the politics associated with them, or participants on the service might be automatically associated with it. Personally, either of these issues on their own tends to be enough for me to avoid a service. I respect Disroot but it’s probably not for me.
#2 is fair, but I really don’t see any point in encrypting emails at rest when they by design are going to third parties who can do whatever they want with it. I don’t trust emails with sensitive information, so that’s not a problem for me. I wouldn’t have email if that was an option.
Best? Hosting an encrypted email server in your own house. As a service, mailfence seems to be a decent alternative
Can you elaborate on what software or solution would allow someone to host an encrypted email server? Would outgoing messages be encrypted or just encrypted at rest? What about if you also had your family member on the same setup and you wrote to each other, would it be encrypted?
Perhaps riseup if youre an anarchist or posteo if youre willing to pay a low fee?
I use posteo myself. Its alright and reliable. Would try Riseup (kinda got political) but idk anyone to ask for an invite code
disroot.org maybe
I like them