Pretty much in the title. Maybe you wouldn’t even use it, but would like to simply see it exist for the sake of having a federated alternative.
For me, it’d be the following:
- Meetup
- Tiktok
I am on the first two, but would prefer a federated alternative. I’m not on Tiktok, but would like to see a federated alternative.
I’ll admit these might not be a good idea. But as a thought experiment, I’d be curious about the community weigh in on what you all think this might look like.
Wattpad, tho it’s not a social media
Bandcamp
I love bandcamp as it is, but this is an amazing idea.
There is at least one https://simonrepp.com/faircamp/
Is it federated? Or is it just a solo version for anybody who wants their own solo bandcamp?
AFAIK it is in beta but developer planned or already implemented federation. If I’m wrong, I think @freebliss could correct me.
@TadeuszBonawentura @z3rOR0ne @small44 It’s more the “your own solo bandcamp” thing to paraphrase @sentient_loom. From the technical side, given it’s a static site generator, it can not technically act as a server for anything, including federation. It could act as an activity pub client technically, but it’s an open research question how that could be interesting. So for now no plans and no implementation, but I’m keeping tabs on ActivityPub and at least thinking about possible directions.
Tumblr
DeviantArt
Furaffinity
Archive Of Our Own
Keep the fediverse weird and invite more theater kids. They pair surprisingly well with the tech dorks that make up the majority of the current fedi population.
what do you think a defederated ao3 would look like? not trying to sound condescending here or anything just actually curious
No different from the regular thing except:
- Different fandoms would congregate in different home instances – Which is ultimately just an aesthetic difference but still.
- It’d be a lot more resilient due to decentralisation. I’m old enough to remember when the entire concept of fanfiction was something considered litigious and anyone who wrote it felt they were skirting on the edge of the law. People forget how easy it is for those times to come back. All it’d take is 1(one) corporately-backed author making a stink about it. Decentralization would make it harder to curb.
oooh point 2 makes a lot of sense. I do tend to forget how fragile the current internet ecosystem is thanks to corporations
I’m an older theater kid!! And I do pair well with this site!!!
Same, actually.
Doubled on FA. Great repository for artwork but their moderation is just terrible. If you’re in the 3rd world you can get banned permanently with no warning for a single mistake, yet there’s known groomers on there who the admins routinely protect no matter how many times they fuck up. And the alternatives aren’t any better, with most of them dying on the hill of allowing loli shit and AI art so that’s all that ever gets posted.
I didn’t know about the third world thing. Gee.
“Tiny knowledge projects”: https://observablehq.com/@jsomers/we-need-more-tiny-knowledge-projects-heres-one
Something like a decentralised dynamic web page like the one linked would be cool. But generally, stuff that’s more like “web gardens” where people can build “places” rather than feeds. Wikis being the best known successful example but still somewhat simple (in a good way).
I’m not sure if you would classify this as a “social media platform”, but imagine a federated MMO. Each server could specify its own rules for things like XP and drops, allow or disallow mods among its playerbase, or even have custom items and quests - but in certain areas (ie “in town”) all of this stuff would be disabled so that players from multiple different servers could all interact. You could choose a server based on whether you like a high pop or a low pop experience, temporarily try other servers out by partying up with someone from it, major guilds could run their own servers with their own events and stuff, and so on. Admins would want to defederate from poorly-moderated servers, servers with cheaters or with mods/rules that they think disrupt the experience they’re after, or whatever other reason.
There actually is a fediverse TikTok equivalent being developed! I’m not sure what the current status of it is, but it does already have rudimentary functionality. I bet he developer(s) might appreciate some help working on it, if anyone has the time/coding skills/money/etc to contribute. Somebody else mentioned Tumblr, and that exists too! So many cool projects being worked on, I regularly check this list to see what’s new, and it’s really heartwarming to see all the work people are putting into making the fediverse such a awesome place. There’s even a Tinder-esque dating app!
Personally, equivalents I would love to see include:
- Archive of Our Own
- RPC/F-List/roleplay platform
- (I’m actually trying to work on one of these myself, but I’m an amateur so don’t get your hopes up lol)
- Etsy
- Ravelry
Federated f-list already exists, it’s called IRC. Honestly I’d love to see an f-chat to IRC bridging tool, so I can add it to my znc bouncer.
I put on my robes and wizard hat…
How do you pronounce “Alovoa”?
TikTok is a sticky wicket, because video is so heavy and sensitive to network performance. You can maybe federate video, but there’s definitely not going to be small instances.
Ah-lo-voh-ah
PHP styled forums and Boorus would be cool. I know some PHP forums have recently added activitypub support, but it’s still pretty recent and doesn’t have much of a userbase.
Also a video platform like YouTube in a way. There’s still a lot of issues to solve with that though, like storage and monetization. PeerTube just isn’t going to cut it. Realistically if this were to ever happen, it’d have to be YouTube themselves to add activitypub support themselves and let people connect to them.
A yt alternative that worked for content creators to be able to live off it.
How? I’m not sure.
Fediverse patreon, seems reasonnable, but they’d have to swallow using monero
Some kind of marketplace like eBay.
Having bought and sold there the rules are quite arbitrary, and their cryptic algorhitm is a nuisance to buyers (you clicked by accident on a stove? You’re gonna see a ton of stoves in the recommended for a while!) and periodically harms sellers (if you don’t post daily and basically make it your day job, good luck making money!)
a federated alternative, with different instances for various interests and categories, meta-categories even and so on. Maybe regional instances like we have on here, one for the EU (quite convenient to ship and receive packages from inside of it, no customs wasting time and money) one for North America, one for East Asia, etc. With one being able to purchase from all of them.
Federation would also ensure that rules are properly enforced without abuses or other malpractices like eBay does (did you know eBay shipped a pig head to somebody who publicly criticized them?) since those instances would naturally be avoided and new ones would be made. It would also prevent excessive fees, as the fediverse is generally not a for-profit endeavor, and still, there will always be the option to shop around from other instances.
VRChat
None, just bring back forums ffs
some still exist. with social media dying, I’ve been frequenting my old haunts more and more. do you have stairs in your house by any chance?
I’m on two. You can literally spin one up for probably $30/mo if memory serves (for a fancy Discourse server on Digital Ocean), then just invite people.
E: actually price looks to be between $5 and $12 dollars depending on your needs, and how much work you’re willing to put in
BeReal
I’d love to see a federated — or first of all just in any kind open source — version of this. I really love their approach of making social media less addictive, but they’re starting to introduce some features which I think are counterproductive to their initial concept.
Since it is just a mobile-oriented product (for obvious reasons like needing two cameras, taking selfies, carrying it around the whole time) it might be hard to build something like that but I guess it would be nice.
I also have no idea how you would make something like that federated, but the approach might be like that the different instances are working as the BeReal timezones, so the BeReal time might be the same for all members of an instance.
Maybe someone is working on that, but I guess this will take some more years, because BeReal is not that popular for a long enough time…
I would love this so much!
yay thanks now I know I’m not the only kind of tech, linux, open source, privacy and federation loving person which still uses stuff like BeReal
Google search. I want a way of finding stuff based on everyone’s tag suggestions, like a booru, but distributed.
Uber, Uber Eats (similar to Wolt)
